Rape jokes.

I am of a rather strict rule about humor. And that's that there's no limit to what someone can make a joke about.

There is a limit to what people will allow. And that limit seems to be rape.

http://veracitystew.com/2012/07/14/comedian-daniel-tosh-and-the-culture-of-rape-in-america-video/#.UAGTZ_oWnEc.twitter

After reading this article I got rather annoyed. While I know it's not a popular opinion, I find Daniel Tosh to be quite funny. And I enjoyed the joke about rape he made in the video the article provides. IF you don't feel like going to the article here's the vid:



What annoys me is that jokes about MEN getting raped....are apparently far more acceptable. Why? Because men are rapists and it's funny when rapists get raped? Don't get me wrong I'll laugh at a "don't drop the soap" joke just as much as anyone else, but there's a huge double standard here and it pisses me off. If it's acceptable to make a joke about ANYONE getting raped, then EVERYONE is fair game.

If you don't find the joke funny, fine. But there's no way you should be able to say, "That joke isn't funny, nobody is allowed to say it without a public shaming."

That's idiotic.

Here's Family Guy with a couple rape jokes, but it's happenning to a guy, so it's A-Ok right?



Let me repeat myself here because I cannot be any more clear. All of the above jokes I thought were funny the first time I heard them, and still think are chuckle-worthy. But that article seems to think that if we laugh at rape jokes, then we're laughing at victims. No. We're trying to turn something tragic into something bearable. That's the point of humor in the first place.

Not 50 years ago was it not considered unethical and morally unacceptable to perform racial jokes? And then who broke the mold there?



Fuck nowadays white people are even getting into the act.



The point is, when it comes to comedians, as soon as you try to draw a line in the humor line, then that becomes the line all comedians now wish to cross.

The same with a heckler. I'm sorry but if you stand up and say, "This particular type of joke you cannot say!" then that translates to a comedian as, "Make this joke right now! And about me!"


Tl;dr

Don't try and limit comedy according to what offends you. Just switch off the comedians you don't like. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, and you won't be able to stop it no matter how much you moralize.

We all know about the double-standards extreme feminists have, from jokes to even wanting to take away rights from men.

As for this is a repeat of an argument a while ago, one has to be weary that freedom of speech HAS a limit and it even includes jokes. But, I would like to separate jokes. How do you think Jewish people feel when someone makes a furnace joke? Jokes about stereotypes is in a far different category and far more accepting than joking about a historical event with millions of deaths. Similar situations with saying 'bomb' in airplanes, screaming 'fire' in movie theaters and making threats to someone else. A "full" free speech right is beyond stupid, how would it feel that anyone can threaten anyone without being persecuted?

HOWEVER, I do support that if you go to a certain place or event that has certain jokes and the person knows it, NO ONE CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

I am reconsidering my choice and do fully support full freedom of speech for one, jokes should be allowed.

Rule number one - There is no rule.

In general there is no limit to jokes or anything at all, one can freely express his/her views on things and joke about the most sensitive topic out there, including rape.

Rule number two - Follow your own rules.

That is a problem everybody is facing, one tells a joke about rape and the other yells out and complains it is too harsh. People are like kingdoms, they use their own rules and morals and such and fight it against other people and their beliefs and such, thus battling it out until the weaker ones loses and starts developing similar thinking and views such as the winner, that is how most are. ( Of course I may be wrong, if yes then quote on this and prove me wrong )

The things is that many people grew up with the idea that such topics are considered taboo and use this rule as their own, and then assume their rule and views are just which I find it to be totally bullshit considering there are over 7 billion people with different views on subjects such as jokes. ( Except babies and people who can't think straight such as the handicapped )

Yes, society has grown into that kind of trend where everything about men is considered a joke and where women are considered sacred, BULLSHIT!! ..... Women should get the same kind of treatment men have in jokes, because then everybody gets a good laugh at it and it .. of course I am talking about this based on general views and not my personal one.

Everybody has their limits in giving out jokes and hearing them, it is like me getting a chocolate ice-cream and my sis getting a vanilla one, only I try to not accept that she is a vanilla lover so I persuade her and shit her favorites and try to make chocolate her favorite .... we humans have different views on things such as jokes.

We set up our own rules in life and sometimes that might offend some people who have different views .. however that is not new to me ... I battle my views against other people's everyday, because I am that persistent.

I think people need to learn you can laugh and joke about something without approving of it done in real life. Like on another site i said i sometimes make race jokes, and someone told me to either stop making them or admit i'm a racist

I'll just leave the link to my thread since it's somewhat similar in subject matter.

Free speech shouldn't be attacked. Sticks and stones...

Americans pride themselves on the fact that they have freedom or freedom of speech, but they are quick to try to take away freedom of speech if it's not acceptable to norm American society. Comedians are known to do something shocking to try to stand out or to be known so this is nothing new. Also as Iamnotchrishansen has stated free speech should not be attacked.

The more bad the jokes are, the more funny. Everybody has their own limit. I dont really have one with jokes, if they are funny, I will laugh. If they don like it, oh well deal with it.

I wish life was as easy as that, but, will you be able to do the same when someone made a joke which offended you? Turning off the television or changing the channel might be easy, but, that feeling when a person just "attacked" you won't go away, you know.



Thanks for stating it.

Humor has always had a close obsession with the absurd; whether it is pointing out the inherent absurdity of the human condition or presenting what society considers a serious topic in an absurd light.
Thus, rape jokes are not particularly revolutionary or border-pushing in the comedy realm.
Sarah Silverman has been riding on it for years.
Edit: That wasn't a pun.

The issue with jokes about rape is that for some people simply hearing about the topic, in any context, can set off a form of post-traumatic stress.
I always found this, in itself, to be absurd; however I have seen the effects of this first-hand.
To this end, regardless of whether or not you find the joke in and of itself funny it can be detrimental to the mental health of the recipient of the joke.

It's not the easiest thing in the world to avoid, either.
You're a young girl with a new boyfriend that takes you down to a comedy club to see a show.
You've had some bad experiences in the past, but are moving on well with your life.
The comedian just happens to slip in a rape joke, unexpectedly, and suddenly you find yourself having an anxiety attack.

This ties in to the idea of censorship, though.
Do we prevent comedians from telling certain kinds of jokes because of a small minority of people?
Do we stop children from bringing snacks that may have peanuts in them to school because one child is horribly allergic?
I don't have the answer.

I'm not quite good at debating yet, so to put it quite bluntly, I think I'll let someone else who can explain what's on my mind right now better than anyone else explain what's on my mind :3.

It is in fact , the problem is not life but you , as it is you that is getting offended , not life that is forcing you to be offended . You put the fault on something else because you are lazy and that suffering is easier than to face what is making you suffer .

Lazy? What the fuck do you mean by that? Explain what you mean by facing what makes one suffer. Even if one face it, there is always anger anyway.

Mate, what the fuck are you talking about?

What does "laziness" have to do with being offended?

Boy bands offend me too.

ps. laziness means you're too much of baby to get over it.

By lazy i mean that your brain is lazy , the human brain is lazy by nature .



Still again , you say that like there was no way to avoid it , like you were not in control of your emotions but your emotions in control of you . Anger is a self defense reaction totaly useless created from the fact that there is things abouth yourself that you are not able to accept . The reason you become angry is to avoid to suffer from that said thing that you don't accept abouth yourself . If you learn to accept who and what you are , an insult should never anger you as there is absolutly no logical reason to be angry .

The lazy explanation from you is just fucked up and don't make sense regarding this topic.

And no, being offended does not mean a person cannot accept who they are, it is a defense reaction, but it's a defense reaction from people insulting of what you are or what you are not.

Who the fuck are they to insult people anyway? What rights do they have to insult other people as they please? When freedom of speech is in play, there comes responsibility to keep your mouth in check so you don't hurt other people's feelings.

You may have the right to speak as you please, but you have the responsibility to know your place and watch what you are saying.

If you think an insult shouldn't offend people, why not try insult someone you don't know and see how they will react?

You're not normal, you're just fucked up in the head.

Thanks for the compliment and making me laugh abouth this funny ironic statement ...

Oh no worries, after all that is all you can come up with. Commenting on my IRONIC statement that I did purposefully

Well , your mind seems pretty closed on the subject , i said what i wanted to say so i have nothing more to say , it's your choice to take it or not , anyway , in the end i'm the one laughing and you're the one angry ...