Stereotypes of blacks

But I don't like watermelon.

Excuse me if i'm going to sound incredibly racist.

Black people + Ninja

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All silliness aside they're okay.

I think stereotypes about different races are proven wrong more often than they are proven right; It's best not to pay them heed and treat people like the individuals they are. Yes--some people fulfill the stereotypes; but when our culture is so saturated with these negative images how could we expect people not to? The same goes for every culture and race.It's best to ignore them and refuse to participate in the perpetuation of stereotypes.

On topic tho their is always some truth behind stereo types, but in all honesty who doesn't like chicken and watermelon

I view them as any other fellow human being, and my best friend is black. I think some people gotta move on into the 21st century and leave their racism behind.

I do my best not to judge people by appearance alone. I live in a place that has a very 50/50 white-black divide, and so growing up you were pretty much forced to mingle with those supposedly 'different' from you. In reality, they're not all that different at all. There are degrading stereotypes for almost all races, but in the end people are people and should be judged on a one-by-one basis. It is just unfortunate that we (white people) have such an elevated position in society that we're relatively safe from experiencing the back-draft of all this unintelligible hatred we like to spew around.

Yet again, I'm going to have to disagree with you. We have an elevated position in society, what have we turned the clock back some 50 years? Today, we have the first African-American president in U.S. History, today, there are more minority CEO'S than there have ever been. And what hatred, have "white people" spewed around over the past 20 years? And please don't reference to a fringe group like a supremacist organization or the ku klux klan.

Quite to the contrary, it's been noted that today, America has far more caucasian families on welfare than it does "blacks"(So much for that elevated status you spoke of)

I'd argue that today, caucasians are the new minority inside the United States. Hell, as soon as a couple of decades, that's about to be a fact. We celebrate African-American history, but what about American/Caucasian History? The Fourth of July? Really? That's it?

The reality on the ground Dia, is that the tables have been flipped. Rather than a process of equality, A reverse inequality has taken place. I'm not arguing that we reflip the tables, I'm arguing if at all possible, we finally balance the table.

But in order to balance the table, we've got to deal with "White guilt", and point out it's irrationalties: We didn't commit the awful atrocities of Nazi Germany, nor the discrimination of South Africa. We didn't go anywhere near as far as Joseph Stalin did with his "four-year" plan of working his slaves in the gulags for dirt.

Our 'crimes', in comparison to world history Dia, pail in comparison. Hell, they aren't even ours but rather of our past generation. And the idea that we should or could atone for those crimes is even more absurd.

If we truly want equality, we not only have to recognize and respect our differences, but that we need to recognize our own individual value. Unfortunately, there are many Caucasian-Americans who feel the need for self hatred, when they've done absolutely nothing wrong.

We enslaved tons of people, and even today they are treated as lower class citizens - sure, you have exceptions like the president and CEO's who have benefited despite their circumstances - but that doesn't change the fact that being white is looked at as a "norm" in society. We are privileged. If you try to debate that fact, then you're more ignorant then you can possibly comprehend. History, wealth, justice, employment and economics, housing, education, self-image... All of these things hail on the side of the white man. Things might be improving, but the root of the issue is still deeply embedded. The fact that these things - slavery and the current issues at hand - might "pale" in comparison to other things does not make them right. Choosing the lesser of two evils does NOT suddenly make the other not evil.

Your whole comment about "What about WHITE HISTORY MONTH?" was just like straight people wondering why there is a pride event for homosexuals but not for heterosexuals. It is because being heterosexual is NOTHING to celebrate. It is the NORM. No one has ever been persecuted for being straight. No one has ever died simply because they are straight. No one has ever had the fact that they are heterosexual completely change their circumstances in life. Being gay has. Being black has. If you think that the just thing to do is pretend that the ills of the past haven't happened, then you're simply wrong. There is still a lot that we need to atone for. Even if we can't - we never can wipe away the pain that still reverberates through our society over what happened only a generation or two ago - we still need to try.

Slavery in America wasn't that long ago. The 50 years ago you speak of isn't that long ago if you think about it. We can't just shrug our shoulders and think that things will change on their own. We need to be active about it. We need to enforce it. We need to make sure that other people have as much freedom to pursue their own path as we do. And yes, being black is a "limitation" in our society. Trayvon died just because he was black. Because black is "suspicious". How much progress do you really think we've made? Not a hell of a lot. I might not of wet my hands with blood, but my ancestors did. My society still does. I need to do what I can to atone for the numerous injustices my peers still actively pursue against our black neighbors. And that means speaking out. Not protecting my privilege. Not worrying about my "whiteness" being invaded upon.

Most stereotypes are just prejudices conjured up after a minority of people act in a shocking way. I think it's safe to assume that the majority are guite different and most people don't follow such stereotypes... Of course on the Internet people voice these assumptions, most of the time just for the purpose of trolling - few actually believe them.

Gee, maybe it is a "norm" in society because America was conquered by the European-Caucasians over the Indians? Just the same as it is the "norm" in African society to be black in Africa. If I'm to take your premise that we're "privileged", it's because we've cultivated the country and transformed it. Yes, the force we used against the Indians is truly tragic, but Indian-Americans have their territories and their histories preserved by U.S. Law, And I imagine if Indian-Americans wanted to move into the mainstream cities/states of North America it could easily be done. Given their nature however, it's not that likely. So protection of their culture, is our way of reparations for those war crimes.

However, the point being, we cultivated and transformed America. Why couldn't the Africans cultivate and transform Africa? To this present day, Africa is as poor and impoverished as it ever was. And, is it the fault of Mr.Whitey?

I'm sorry Dia, no it is not our fault, even with slavery and segregation it is STILL not our fault, that when push comes to shove, the African-American community is hardly doing anything about the state of Africa or insofar has little interest in their homeland.

I'm not about to go on a guilt trip for those who failed to take responsibility, by the early 1900's, the teaching of African children to read and write was already becoming a more widely accepted practice(In addition to those who would teach in secrecy.), by the early 50's, Brown V Board of Education was decided and by the 70's, the integration was fulfilled.

Assume then, in your "guilt" mentality that we'll just judge the 70's generation onwards: What exactly have they accomplished for America, and most importantly for themselves? In the five decades after successful integration, we can't say much has changed. Our fault? How? They've been taught the basic fundamentals of living, they've been integrated into our society. What more can we possibly do to tip the competitive balance in their favor?

We can judge, what they have done. As mentioned in this very thread, the African-American community dominates the entertainment waves. In many cases, these entertainers and even professional athletes who've either dropped through high school or flunked through college, still cannot build a cohesive life for themselves after their entertaining days are over.

Our fault? It was THEIR *faulty, might I add* decision-making process that put them in that position in the first place.

There are decisions, and there are consequences. For a time, our ancestors made the mistake of enslaving the African Community(I'll take it one step further, they made the mistake of bringing them over to America in the first place), it was a shortsighted, temporary measure of complacency without observation of the long-term consequences that we see played out today:

-The reverse-flipping of the discrimination table that I explained above

-As well as the eternal damnation of Africa. It's worth noting that the slavery practices of Caucasian-America, have made their way into Africa. Don't you find that pitifully ironic and sad?

America is paying for it's mistakes of the past, paying in ways our Founders and our generational ancestors never considered when they made that mistake. So too, is the African-American community paying for the mistake of believing that a state of apathy would give them what they've wanted.

It's been true, however, in our "guilt-ridden" mentality, that the African-American community has been given that assistance upon the cry of discrimination. That self-guilt, is ironically what is leading to the destruction of the modern African-American.

Dia, you and Loli once crucified me for upholding the Sacred Feminine, saying that there's no longer a need for a male to have any sense of decency or chauvry. I'll take the opportunity to return the words back to you: White Chauvery as it regards the African-American community is their greatest weakness. The belief that there's still more we need to do, reparations yet unpaid in the dark chapters of American history, is exactly what has held the African-American Community back.

I'll go so far as to say, you're keeping the slave in slavery. How do you expect the African-American to believe in the American Dream, if you don't even believe he himself can obtain it?






Except today, they don't need to fear lynchpinning "White mobs", nope, they do an absolutely "terrific" job on their own:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/race-wars-part-1-the-shocking-data-on-black-on-black-crime/

A part of the reason stereotypes might be so pronounced, is I don't know: They pronounce it themselves? What other culture is stupid enough to 'sing' about perpetual violence, sex, drugs and anything else I might've missed? After representing themselves openly in such a disgraceful manner, can you blame the general public for thinking that way? Even worse, is the actual realization of said behavior. So it's not like we can say "It's meant of entertainment consumption.", this is a mentality that's embedded within the African-American community.

If there's nothing to "celebrate" about being Caucasian(I find that incorrect, America, in her prime was a collection of the efforts of everyone in this country but let's not kidd ourselves: We carried the load.) Then there's nothing to celebrate about being "Black" or "Chinese" or whatever the case may be.

That's actually just it: "White Guilt" is about some perceived conception of evil committed to the African-American, when said acts were several decades ago.

Yet, it is the Caucasian-American that founded this country, it was the Caucasian-American that dealt with the debt crisis of the early beginnings of America. It was the Caucasian-American that shouldered the burden of the country.

And so, with the Caucasian-American's status hanging in the window for first time in this formerly European-English state, can you yet connect the dots to the decline? 'Minorities' who once didn't shoulder that burden, or ask to shoulder that burden now must shoulder that burden. This, is the perceieved false notion of equality that you likely long for.

We've already seen the results in America. Quick, name the last major infrastructure improvement to this country's streets, it's traffic system or to it's buildings. It'll be a pretty long time, most buildings are older than
segregation itself.






'Freedom'? Have you heard of the term Affirmative Action? This ideal, like all other Liberal ideals to uphold 'equality', is little more than reverse racism. Simply put, in today's world a company has to have a certain number of a particular ethnic group, in order to remain in good standing with 'equality' laws. Actual skillset be damned or not.

Privilege? You and I are utterly disadvantaged in today's market place. We're not a "minority", we cannot go into a work place, compete with someone of a superior resume and actually expect to win that job.

When you combine this policy, along with the growing numbers of immigration, illegal immigration and I hope I'm opening your eyes, at least a little to the future of this country's job market?

Oh, and not to detract the thread but the Travyon Martin case is not a racial crime, it is a Vigilant Crime. Wherein Zimmerman exerted more moral and lawful responsibility than the rights of citizenship allowed and he thereby became a criminal.

Also, Martin's recent history wasn't one of all roses, but of yet another tragic youth that at best, would've led a life of perpetual mediocrity and at worst, posing a criminal threat to the U.S. Society.

Neither of these men(Zimmerman or Martin) are worth the time and day the U.S. Media gave them. I'm extremely happy we haven't heard any "developments" as it regards that meaningless case in Florida.

Your "Society", your "Neighbors" do not go out into the streets with pitchforks. Do you want me to remind you of Al Sharpton's disgraceful actions? The call of the New Black Panthers?(This goes back to what I said before, about the call of apathy).

Enough of the White Guilt nonsense, it's stunted the African-American development further(not that I think any such development will actually occur. If it hasn't by now, chances are it never will happen) and it's ultimately destroyed our civilization.

You know, Dia, our family, our brothers and sisters. You and me. We need to look after ourselves, far before we worry about anyone else. And if the African-American community took that stance? You might just see a real, actual equality taking place.

What the fuck gives you the right to say with certainty how someone would have ended up?

I like fried and watermelon juice and im white?
Watch this,like Morgan freeman said
This is why he is easily the only man i respect the most,not to mention his voice is amazing.

Also having a black friend doesn't make you less racist.



As far as im concerned i haven't enslaved anyone.Just because my ancestors fucked up doesn't mean i have to take the blame. Yeah being white is amazing and if your white you will automatically succed at life, well not really but it's easier. BTW my GF is black, so im not racist, fucking morons. @Happy i dont mean you u.

Gee, I don't know, his friends and associates. The way he behaved pubically over the internet. As a young teenager, he was already into drug possession. And his parents, causing a media storm and then reaping the benefits for themselves.

It was only a matter of time, a human life rarely, once degenerated holds some form of morality or competence. You expect me to place expectations on those who don't place expectations on themselves? Sorry, I won't.

I don't have a crystal ball, but the probability for his life being anything but mediocre isn't that good to say the least.

I would just like to point out, not all blacks love mainstream/gangsta rap which i'm presuming is what you are referring too(and there are plenty of white people who listen to that genre of music), and there is underground rap which covers a far more expansive range of topics/subjects. Plus, there are plenty of songs about violence, sex, and drugs made by white people. So lets stop judging a entire race of people based on what we see on tv.



I meant to comment on this before, but i didn't have the time. While i do think affirmative action is a imperfect solution, i think it is trying to address a problem. When blacks first started to get housing, they would often get the shittiest ones available.

This is what started the pattern of minority area's being "ghettos." It is very hard to get ahead if your neighborhood is shitty, and already puts you at a disadvantage. Now, i am not saying there are no white people in shitty neighborhoods,but blacks(and other minorities) tend to come from bad neighborhoods with far more frequency. That is what affirmative action is supposed to compensate for. I admit it is a imperfect solution, but the point is America is not a utopia of equality.

Also, jobless rates are much higher for minorities so lets not act like affirmative action is a guarantee that if a non-white person applies for a job they will automatically get it.Its not



PLEASE tell me you are not one of those people screaming about illegal immigrants taking our jobs?Seriously, they are not getting jobs Americans want. What they are doing is workings in fields for shitty wages no legal citizen would stand for.

And here is proof of what i am talking about




...you know who his friends and associates are, and that for certain they were ad people how?



What behavior did he exhibit that made it certain he wouldn't achieve anything in life?If you're referring to the hoodie pic...well, many people have done that. Heck i've done that.And if you are referring to the pic with the grills...well, Lochte who seems obsessed with them seems to have managed just fine.



Plenty of people use(or have used) marijuana and still managed to do something with thee life.



All they wanted was a trial, which is what normally happens if somebody shoots someone else. I hardly count that as causing a media storm



From your posts here and on other topics, you seem rather quick to judge. You are making a severe judgment of character based on little bits and pieces of his life, which he is unable to give any context or response too.

There's a concept called "setting the trend", ie: Where there's something new that comes via the entertainment market, ads, etc and it gains such popularity that people decide to copy it on a massive scale. Of course, not all 'blacks'/African-Americans love that type of music. I never said they did, but it originated from that community, and it's highly supported by that community.

The very support of that 'music', shows the fabric of that community. A few pages earlier than this, talked about the struggle within the community though of many African-Americans who want to break free from the dregs of society. Difficult, as there are many more of their 'friends' down there, then up in the middle-class who would easily crucify them. And then secondly, when upper-middle class citizens make "excuses" for these dregs, thinking you're actually making them better.

I said this to Dia: The excuses make them weaker, not stronger.





Neither is any other country in the world for that matter. But nevertheless, we strive, we move forward, we become better. If there's an "advantage" or "privilege" over being 'white', I'll say that it's this: That train thought of striving, moving forward and competing. It's always been in my mind, I've never once made an excuse for my own failures or shortcomings.

Poverty knows no class distinction, I should know, fighting poverty inspite of my 'whiteness'. Poverty however, does know intelligence distinction. That article you posted, points out how most African-Americans mainly take low-wage labor work which is the first thing to get cut in a recession or depression. Again, I beseech the question: Integration was fully implemented by the mid-70's, I'll grant you the 80's if you really want me to be generous(A full three decades after Brown V Board of Education) was decided. It's been four-to-five decades since full implementation.

So, what more can society do? How much more can the 'white race' atone for it's sins of a century past? At what point do we say: Integration failed, and mainly because of a lack of responsibility by the African-American community? A community, of course, shouldn't punish individuals. But rather those individuals who make up a large part of the social educational and thereby social economic failure.

There isn't a single policy Washington can enact, or some 'movement' Caucasian-Americans can start, which will encourage the apathetic dregs of their community to actually give a damn. You can say 'they started from behind', but the state of Africa speaks to a different story. It's sad, but true in that the African/African-American community, for whatever reason unknown to man simply is not capable of applying social knowledge.

One thing I do know for sure, is that it's not because 'mr.whitey' isn't giving him all of the 'advantages'.





No doubt, it's a social failure of America as a whole that has led to the mentality of not taking some of these more physical labor jobs. But also, note that many Americans are now in mostly the city/suburban areas, they were not raised or grown into the field of work, as Americans of decades and a century of the past were.

So it's in large part due to the industrial revolution, actually that less and less Americans are physically or mentally otherwise incapable of working in the fields.

But you know something, I'd rather have prisoners working these low-wage jobs than illegal immigrants. Why? Because it'll reform them into society, they'll breath some fresh air for once(regulated by police, of course), and this'll make it less likely they commit a crime once released from prison.

No matter how little the gain or loss may be, this is America. I'm pro-legal immigration, those who want to come to the country and live out the American Dream need to profess some kind of loyalty to this country. Rather than come, get a low-wage job and then send the money out of the economy to their distant family relatives.





Actually, no, I was referring to his public twitter account(and those of his friends), who when they first heard of the tragic event, did they send their condolences? Did they express any kind of grief? Or any kind of sensible anger that we associate with such a tragic loss of life? Actually, sadly not. They went into a frenzy about how, at the very least he got some 'punches' in. And his posts weren't exactly that of someone with a sense of civil decency.

His story of his mediocre life, isn't exclusive to him(nor exclusive to the African-American community.), even if one is to attribute this to one's teenage development. For example, our current President was able to rise above those days.

Most of these people however, unfortunately aren't able to rise above. Because they can't comprehend anything else. Again, mostly because of excuses.

Even the president himself acknowledged it: This type of crowd needs to stop making excuses, grow up, and get some decent sense of responsibility. If he can do it, so too can that sect of the community.






We can debate whether certain drugs should be legal or not, for that matter whether government should govern drugs or not. I believe that the only proper way to govern drugs, is while allowing an 'open choice', through the leadership and decency of the people at the top, the monkey syndrome takes effect and very few would actually take drugs in such a society.

We're far and away from that kind of leadership though, so it's more of a dream then a reality that America can move forward to. But what we can concur to, is the idea that an under-aged teenager can gain access to drugs, and that the said under-aged teenager ever actually reforming or getting off drugs is incredibly unlikely.

The addiction battle is a heavy one, that takes a toll on even the most mentally strong of people.

http://www.breakingthecycles.com/blog/2011/03/31/by-the-numbers-the-toll-of-substance-abuse-poor-emotional-health-and-mental-illness/

The reality is that Travyon Martin had a difficult road ahead of him, one he created himself. So please excuse me, if I feel absolutely nothing for a life that he himself wasted. It's unfortunate that he lost it due to another's aggression, but it's not as though we would have heard his name in society somewhere, unless most probably in a negative connotation.

Again: Nothing could be more glorious than the outcome known to us: Both Zimmerman and Martin will have been excluded from American Society. Unfortunately for us, the degenerates of our country cannot rid themselves from our presence quickly enough.




The state won't prosecute someone without proper evidence. Given the testimony from Zimmerman, the DA had to feel confident with several factors: 1) They had to prove that foul play had taken place. 2)They had to determine who was the aggressor(for example, the medical assistant who clarified that the shot was fired in short range and that multiple shots had been fired) and then finally they had to feel confident enough to proceed to trial.

Given all of those factors, how could anyone have expected any less than a deliberate process before deciding to charge Zimmerman? Also, this is coming at a time just after the Casey Anthony case(also in Florida), the DA could not afford another mishap.

But, aside from that, that's not what I was referencing to: The mother was quick to set up a charity for funds. These funds won't go towards something like displaced minority children, or victims of violence. No, they'll go straight to the Martin family. Again, where's the priority being placed?

Black Jesus: This is a case filled with despots, low-wage workers and people who amounted to nothing in our society. As I said before, the media coverage was unwarranted. And it was mostly for political purposes, before Zimmerman was revealed to be biracial himself, OOPS.

This case means nothing to me, it should mean nothing to the rest of America. Least of all, is it a social indictment of the Caucasian-American.




I've seen the neighborhoods, the homes, the thought philosophies. I don't need to see another tale of the same mediocrity. Often, a stereotype is the projection of a society's norms.

Want to shake the stereotype? Then I have but one answer for the community: Rise yourself above the 'norms', no more excuses, no more proclamation of so-called 'white privilege'. Get an education, strive for more and not less. And those 'friends'? Let them drown in the sea of failure.

@LustfulAngel

Are you just saying these horribly racist things, because you resent your own African-American heritage? Perhaps the Dad that you never knew was of this descent, and thus you think that all other black people are somehow intrinsically bad since he was?

I don't recall saying it was okay to allow one's own personal info to go out into a debate(But then, I'll recognize it was my fault for sharing personal information to begin with.) Secondly, I don't resent any such heritage and as you say I don't even know if I have it. Nor can I judge my father, since he was never really there.

Nor do I think of my opinions as 'racist', to qualify as a 'racist' I would have to harbor thoughts and opinions that negatively attack the African-American community for nothing more than being 'black', and never once have I ever wrote, spoken or said anything to that degree.

So stop with the emotional sensationalism. My opinions and thoughts are based on a catastrophic, evident social failure that's existed for several decades now and it doesn't figure to get any better. And the primary reason it doesn't figure to get any better, is the social excuses that keep getting pronounced for their failure.

There's discrimination laws in this country, there's equal opportunity laws in this country. There's ample opportunity for all people in this country(infinitely moreso than half a cenury ago), at what point do we say: It simply doesn't work?

I think we're kind of at that point, where education is free and open to the public and yet in your mind and the minds of others, we haven't really 'progressed'. That's because perception of progress is tied to...wait for it.

Their Progress(or lack thereof)

Cute, glad to know I bothered you. ;)
And anyway, this isn't a debate anymore. It's hate-mongering. Everyone is sick of being a part of it, so why don't you just disappear and take your ridiculous ideologies away with you?

You're right, it's no longer a debate. Your attacks on me and my character, is the only hate-mongering I see here however.