The Direction FAKKU! is going...
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FAKKU QA
iraver42 wrote...
It disturbs me slightly that the admins would be so willing to condemn entire genres just to increase sales.Really? Is that what they're doing? How do you know?
iraver42 wrote...
Seemingly because some advertiser or partner deemed those topics unacceptable.Oh? And where did you hear that? From another user?
iraver42 wrote...
In any case I'm severely disappointed that Jacob so willingly disintegrated these genres effectively reducing all of Fakku to just vanilla content.I wasn't aware NTR, netori, cheating, femdom, monstergirl, bondage, group, pregnant, and futanari were all vanilla. Huh.
iraver42 wrote...
While we are enjoying a far more diverse set of tags we are now painfully limited genre wise. I think Fakku is losing its way and may see its fanbase dramatically reduce in size if they don't work quickly to restore these genres as well as continue to add new ones and to diversify. I'm not sure what this means. More tags, but less genres? Then you want them to add more genres? Are genres and tags separate? Genres are usually very broad in scope. You know, adventure, horror, romance... I don't think loli counts as a genre. At least no more than MILF does. Same with tentacles. That'd be on the same level as monstergirls. In any case, Fakku has been adding tags up the wazoo lately.
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Paracelsus wrote...
KozWanderer wrote...
FAKKU is going to continue......what more do you need to discuss.There's continue and continue. Have you been around long enough to remember the pre and the post-crunchy fansubbing world? Well, put that in the perspective of a considerably smaller business with a lot less active and capable scanlators. Maybe someone will limp through, but the outcome will eventually be the death of scanlations. So far, what you got was free and it came from the effort of people whom (mostly, some did it for cash) were willing to waste their free time to share such works with you. I can't see many people retaining that drive in such an ecosystem.
Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community. The question is, what would do that? I said it was going to continue, FAKKU is getting more connections and materials to add because they are in the position to claim. I don't see anything that significant to kill of a amount of scanners to make FAKKU go down. That problem was always enact from the beginning, so what we should be observing is the community of scanners and the media itself instead of clarifying FAKKU's background and basic status.
I know scanlators get their support from their personal will, but it's mixed. Organisations and professional translators are the ones we pay money to. Did you think people are grateful like that? We have the internet and we do whatever we want with it, I pay for this hardware and I pay for that shit and here's the things we get. No motivation to pay for people because I don't want to-honestly. Like this, we get disrespected and there's no real payback justification. And no, this is not how I view things in reality, this is just what I think about free service things on the internet.
So sit back and relax to let the expert FAKKUs handle this.
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KozWanderer wrote...
Paracelsus wrote...
KozWanderer wrote...
FAKKU is going to continue......what more do you need to discuss.Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community. The question is, what would do that? I said it was going to continue, FAKKU is getting more connections and materials to add because they are in the position to claim. I don't see anything that significant to kill of a amount of scanners to make FAKKU go down. That problem was always enact from the beginning, so what we should be observing is the community of scanners and the media itself instead of clarifying FAKKU's background and basic status.
I know scanlators get their support from their personal will, but it's mixed. Organisations and professional translators are the ones we pay money to. Did you think people are grateful like that? We have the internet and we do whatever we want with it, I pay for this hardware and I pay for that shit and here's the things we get. No motivation to pay for people because I don't want to-honestly. Like this, we get disrespected and there's no real payback justification. And no, this is not how I view things in reality, this is just what I think about free service things on the internet.
So sit back and relax to let the expert FAKKUs handle this.
1. I didn't say anything about ecosystems falling down. I said people actually contributing leaving because of an ecosystem going toxic.
2. You don't see anything signficant because you just don't look hard enough. Scanlations right now are a miserable shell of what they were, which as big as they ever got, they were never that big to begin with. You have no idea how much of the porn you like is in english only because someone opened the wallet, went to some hired hands and said "I want this to be translated". TLLP is now like that too. TLLP, the ones who released like 500 works in two years, for free.
3. I don't get the 'mixed' part, the entire paragraph as a matter of fact. At least, I hope I didn't get it.
4. 'Expert Fakku-s' makes me suspect you have no idea what Fakku actually is and how they operate.
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Paracelsus wrote...
KozWanderer wrote...
Paracelsus wrote...
KozWanderer wrote...
FAKKU is going to continue......what more do you need to discuss.Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community. The question is, what would do that? I said it was going to continue, FAKKU is getting more connections and materials to add because they are in the position to claim. I don't see anything that significant to kill of a amount of scanners to make FAKKU go down. That problem was always enact from the beginning, so what we should be observing is the community of scanners and the media itself instead of clarifying FAKKU's background and basic status.
I know scanlators get their support from their personal will, but it's mixed. Organisations and professional translators are the ones we pay money to. Did you think people are grateful like that? We have the internet and we do whatever we want with it, I pay for this hardware and I pay for that shit and here's the things we get. No motivation to pay for people because I don't want to-honestly. Like this, we get disrespected and there's no real payback justification. And no, this is not how I view things in reality, this is just what I think about free service things on the internet.
So sit back and relax to let the expert FAKKUs handle this.
1. I didn't say anything about ecosystems falling down. I said people actually contributing leaving because of an ecosystem going toxic.
2. You don't see anything signficant because you just don't look hard enough. Scanlations right now are a miserable shell of what they were, which as big as they ever got, they were never that big to begin with. You have no idea how much of the porn you like is in english only because someone opened the wallet, went to some hired hands and said "I want this to be translated". TLLP is now like that too. TLLP, the ones who released like 500 works in two years, for free.
3. I don't get the 'mixed' part, the entire paragraph as a matter of fact. At least, I hope I didn't get it.
4. 'Expert Fakku-s' makes me suspect you have no idea what Fakku actually is and how they operate.
I typed 'Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community. So the question is, what would do that?' It was an objective statement, if it was an argument then it wouldn't work in the first place. Your very skeptic, and you criticise but don't tell me any proper solution and any important opinions about it. And drop it with the expressions, 'miserable shell' 'toxic' 'open wallets'. Your telling me their status but your not telling me the problem. And what about TLLP? They surely do not obtain as much as they give. But that's the inconvenience about digital content, there a chance without payback. You want it to be better? Then go ahead, go make forums and use time and energy. I don't have a clue about the point of this argument, I just said it was going to continue and your discussing small parts about it that couldn't effect the overall condition. There's way more things behind FAKKU that I don't know, not sure what they are doing. I did not deliberately try to go offensive, I just said it was going to continue. I asked what could drop FAKKU, I lightly typed about scanlators in general ways. Thought about economical behaviour and that's all.
You said how the media is toxic in context with translators?-I think. But the community is toxic, then it's toxic. Your saying it's toxic but there's nothing to do since your relying on a statement but not with points.
Keep intelligently observing the word for word sentences. Your word for wording so much that the topic remains the same. Your focusing on accusing me wrong but it's actually like your trying to get in my personal space because it's not telling me what makes FAKKU change. I emphasised a lot in how you don't give me a solution to anything, which means there is no point in this.
So the question is, what would do that? What could make FAKKU even drop? What will make FAKKU lose the content we want? Leave it to the people who work with FAKKU, if we discuss without any action then your just giving pointers and not answers. I really wanted to just reply 'So what?" but you might start killing me on how I didn't leave any proper post.
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KozWanderer wrote...
I typed 'Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community.
And you were wrong.
Your very skeptic, and you criticise but don't tell me any proper solution and any important opinions about it.
There's no solution. Monetizing over a system that was born due to the free effort of people will eventually discourage people from doing it for free, because scanlating is tedious, and your hours wasted doing it will be buried by the effort of people earning money for it. Scanlations was always driven mostly by ego (people ragequit or split groups because of ego or just 'autism') and partly by people looking for cash. You're basically wasting your time to share works you think they're good just to add hits to a site that at this point doesn't need you anymore, a site that got big as it is not really thanks to itself (Fakku were scanlators a hundred sixtyseven years ago, their overall contribution was inferior to what single individuals have done over the years. Do you think the other thousands of works came out of thin air?)
Your telling me their status but your not telling me the problem.
I already told you. Too little people doing scanlations, even less doing it for free, they will eventually be discouraged by what Fakku is going to become. Porndude won't waste a week worth of free time hours of his life to release something eventually buried by dozens and dozens of paid works. You'll see once they start releasing magazines simultaneously with Japan.
And what about TLLP? They surely do not obtain as much as they give. But that's the inconvenience about digital content, there a chance without payback.
Scanlations is done as a hobby. Some do because they want to improve whatever comes out in english, they feel the offer is not up to par. Some to do polish their japanese up to go to Shibuya or college, some do to kill time out of boredom. TLLP also accepted commissions but they did most of the stuff for free. The DMCA turned them into scanlators for hire, so a group disappeared.
You want it to be better? Then go ahead, go make forums and use time and energy.
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I don't have a clue about the point of this argument, I just said it was going to continue and your discussing small parts about it that couldn't effect the overall condition. There's way more things behind FAKKU that I don't know, not sure what they are doing. I did not deliberately try to go offensive, I just said it was going to continue. I asked what could drop FAKKU, I lightly typed about scanlators in general ways. Thought about economical behaviour and that's all.
You said Fakku will live on. If people come to Fakku and have to pay to fap most of the time, then Fakku won't live on. That's all there is to it.
You said how the media is toxic in context with translators?-I think. But the community is toxic, then it's toxic. Your saying it's toxic but there's nothing to do since your relying on a statement but not with points.
When your plan is have a site where to share porn stories coming from wherever, then that's it. When your plan is making money, eventually that agenda trickles down the whole place. Now it's books, tomorrow is magazines, the day after tomorrow is having a premium account to do anything else. It's the story of the world. Look at gaming, for one.
Keep intelligently observing the word for word sentences. Your word for wording so much that the topic remains the same. Your focusing on accusing me wrong but it's actually like your trying to get in my personal space because it's not telling me what makes FAKKU change. I emphasised a lot in how you don't give me a solution to anything, which means there is no point in this.
It's a pointless argument because my point was to bash your 'Fakku will live on' statement.
So the question is, what would do that? What could make FAKKU even drop? What will make FAKKU lose the content we want?
That's the problem, it seems to me you haven't understood what Fakku was before Fakku Books.
Leave it to the people who work with FAKKU, if we discuss without any action then your just giving pointers and not answers. I really wanted to just reply 'So what?" but you might start killing me on how I didn't leave any proper post.
Implication being they know how scanlations work more than you and me. On a business level, probably. But, from what I can see from the older post, it seems to me you have this idea that free scanlators can go screw themselves, and you will gladly bend over and pay for whatever they charge so it's all fine and well.
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I remember I traslated some stories back then just to help the community and make some works/artists more known.
Translating is fun.
Translating is fun.
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"OLD POST OF THIS TOPIC" This can be another way for new/usual people to know about "FAKKU!"'s condition.
Hello fellow fappers, I hope you're fine, cause I'm having troubles with how they working on it. "Edited" More like the design of the site to the new FAKKU!
I don't remember how many years ago I discovered FAKKU!, Perhaps 6 or 5 years ago while I was searching for a good site to read hentai I found this, a place where I could read a lot of it, even "those" kind of proyects that I don't like that much.
Funny fact is that the fakku community, unlike youtube or some other social pages, was/is a very polite one. Hell, even the owner of the site seemed humble and very happy of what this site had become for a lot of people.
But as days went by I started to look some books that i needed to buy in order to read them. Today that number has increased by a lot and I can't stop this feeling. That FAKKU! is becoming a shadow of the promess it made at the start.
I understand that the copyright may put them in a tight situation and I know that this site needs money to keep It's feets online... "Edited" We all know that people did that work for us and they do deserve the recognition and something in return for what they've done.
But I guess it hurts me more, that the very book that made me create an account a few months ago was pull out this very year and now it's on the front page for people to buy... when it was for FREE before.
Maybe I'm just butthurt or whatever, and this "Topic" will be extinguished too cause I haven't learn where I have to put this kind of "Topics".
But I would like to know, how many of you saw the "You must purchase this book in order to read it. (u mad? 'evil smile')" picture and feel this desperate feeling of impotence when this kind of sites shouldn't do that... when after all their kindness if feels like they slap you right in the face...
"Edited" There must be a way to know what they're selling and what's the usual thing you were used to, don't you think? Cause it's like walking to your house and find out that they close a street so you need to turn around...
Go ahead and crucify me if you must...
Hello fellow fappers, I hope you're fine, cause I'm having troubles with how they working on it. "Edited" More like the design of the site to the new FAKKU!
I don't remember how many years ago I discovered FAKKU!, Perhaps 6 or 5 years ago while I was searching for a good site to read hentai I found this, a place where I could read a lot of it, even "those" kind of proyects that I don't like that much.
Funny fact is that the fakku community, unlike youtube or some other social pages, was/is a very polite one. Hell, even the owner of the site seemed humble and very happy of what this site had become for a lot of people.
But as days went by I started to look some books that i needed to buy in order to read them. Today that number has increased by a lot and I can't stop this feeling. That FAKKU! is becoming a shadow of the promess it made at the start.
I understand that the copyright may put them in a tight situation and I know that this site needs money to keep It's feets online... "Edited" We all know that people did that work for us and they do deserve the recognition and something in return for what they've done.
But I guess it hurts me more, that the very book that made me create an account a few months ago was pull out this very year and now it's on the front page for people to buy... when it was for FREE before.
Maybe I'm just butthurt or whatever, and this "Topic" will be extinguished too cause I haven't learn where I have to put this kind of "Topics".
But I would like to know, how many of you saw the "You must purchase this book in order to read it. (u mad? 'evil smile')" picture and feel this desperate feeling of impotence when this kind of sites shouldn't do that... when after all their kindness if feels like they slap you right in the face...
"Edited" There must be a way to know what they're selling and what's the usual thing you were used to, don't you think? Cause it's like walking to your house and find out that they close a street so you need to turn around...
Go ahead and crucify me if you must...
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Paracelsus wrote...
KozWanderer wrote...
I typed 'Everything has ecosystems that fall down because of the community.
And you were wrong.
Your very skeptic, and you criticise but don't tell me any proper solution and any important opinions about it.
There's no solution. Monetizing over a system that was born due to the free effort of people will eventually discourage people from doing it for free, because scanlating is tedious, and your hours wasted doing it will be buried by the effort of people earning money for it. Scanlations was always driven mostly by ego (people ragequit or split groups because of ego or just 'autism') and partly by people looking for cash. You're basically wasting your time to share works you think they're good just to add hits to a site that at this point doesn't need you anymore, a site that got big as it is not really thanks to itself (Fakku were scanlators a hundred sixtyseven years ago, their overall contribution was inferior to what single individuals have done over the years. Do you think the other thousands of works came out of thin air?)
Your telling me their status but your not telling me the problem.
I already told you. Too little people doing scanlations, even less doing it for free, they will eventually be discouraged by what Fakku is going to become. Porndude won't waste a week worth of free time hours of his life to release something eventually buried by dozens and dozens of paid works. You'll see once they start releasing magazines simultaneously with Japan.
And what about TLLP? They surely do not obtain as much as they give. But that's the inconvenience about digital content, there a chance without payback.
Scanlations is done as a hobby. Some do because they want to improve whatever comes out in english, they feel the offer is not up to par. Some to do polish their japanese up to go to Shibuya or college, some do to kill time out of boredom. TLLP also accepted commissions but they did most of the stuff for free. The DMCA turned them into scanlators for hire, so a group disappeared.
You want it to be better? Then go ahead, go make forums and use time and energy.
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I don't have a clue about the point of this argument, I just said it was going to continue and your discussing small parts about it that couldn't effect the overall condition. There's way more things behind FAKKU that I don't know, not sure what they are doing. I did not deliberately try to go offensive, I just said it was going to continue. I asked what could drop FAKKU, I lightly typed about scanlators in general ways. Thought about economical behaviour and that's all.
You said Fakku will live on. If people come to Fakku and have to pay to fap most of the time, then Fakku won't live on. That's all there is to it.
You said how the media is toxic in context with translators?-I think. But the community is toxic, then it's toxic. Your saying it's toxic but there's nothing to do since your relying on a statement but not with points.
When your plan is have a site where to share porn stories coming from wherever, then that's it. When your plan is making money, eventually that agenda trickles down the whole place. Now it's books, tomorrow is magazines, the day after tomorrow is having a premium account to do anything else. It's the story of the world. Look at gaming, for one.
Keep intelligently observing the word for word sentences. Your word for wording so much that the topic remains the same. Your focusing on accusing me wrong but it's actually like your trying to get in my personal space because it's not telling me what makes FAKKU change. I emphasised a lot in how you don't give me a solution to anything, which means there is no point in this.
It's a pointless argument because my point was to bash your 'Fakku will live on' statement.
So the question is, what would do that? What could make FAKKU even drop? What will make FAKKU lose the content we want?
That's the problem, it seems to me you haven't understood what Fakku was before Fakku Books.
Leave it to the people who work with FAKKU, if we discuss without any action then your just giving pointers and not answers. I really wanted to just reply 'So what?" but you might start killing me on how I didn't leave any proper post.
Implication being they know how scanlations work more than you and me. On a business level, probably. But, from what I can see from the older post, it seems to me you have this idea that free scanlators can go screw themselves, and you will gladly bend over and pay for whatever they charge so it's all fine and well.
Oh hi, wasn't on for a while so I'm not sure if this will mean anything.
Personal opinion wasn't my case, I was expecting some head thinking in how FAKKU might change but there is nothing that needs to be said. Therefore, fakku is going to keep going since there is no big updates or news.
FAKKU seems to be holding business efforts for whatever reason they have, it doesn't necessarily have to do with thriving and improving or keeping the site going. But we get a picture, they are being changing their websites and that is really what I think, that we want to discussing, than being minded about current details. There is a problem to solve and it is about having knowledge about the website since the thread is made so, if we just keep recalling the same effects about the community and staff. Then we won't have anything to solve since its nothing to do with how FAKKU could develop, i'm not sure about any presumption in value for information on FAKKU's plans but that is not exactly the case for everyone. It's clear that your going spam on what I think about others and what I don't know, but really, i'm honest that I don't help scanlaters in most ways so I mind as well be as good as a weaboo hater.
And just make a dialect argument than expressing how much of an asshole I am if you want to get a reasonable response.
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but im really wondering what was so controversial about the monstergirl tag for it to be completely removed from the site :v
Sure it was unorthodox, but its not something like bestiality :v
Sure it was unorthodox, but its not something like bestiality :v
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Misaki_Chi
Fakku Nurse
Biologist wrote...
but im really wondering what was so controversial about the monstergirl tag for it to be completely removed from the site :vSure it was unorthodox, but its not something like bestiality :v
I mean if you put a paper bag over most of the mister girls upper parts...
Anyways yeah, it's a same along with a lot of the content. Personally I'm not a vanilla person, I like variety, but they are still publishing content of different variety so just wait and see what Fakku does with convent of various variety
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Paradox Jast
Has seen things...
If I have a way to pay for the content I've *ahem* made use of from time to time over the years then I'm all for it. The only part about this at the moment that saddens me is the content that has been disabled with no way to acquire it... without going to one of those 'other' sites, anyway.
I believe we're hopefully just scratching the surface right now, maybe someday I'll see more of my disabled favorites that I'll actually be able to buy.
As for people posting ridiculous comments... it's the internet. They can't (well, they can, but shouldn't) get it for free anymore so it's time to grab the torch and pitchfork and go rabblerousing for a little bit. Because there is obviously nothing better to do in life than complain about not being able to look at hentai for free.
I believe we're hopefully just scratching the surface right now, maybe someday I'll see more of my disabled favorites that I'll actually be able to buy.
As for people posting ridiculous comments... it's the internet. They can't (well, they can, but shouldn't) get it for free anymore so it's time to grab the torch and pitchfork and go rabblerousing for a little bit. Because there is obviously nothing better to do in life than complain about not being able to look at hentai for free.
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I just want my tags back and why have the apps stoped working?I loved going to there page spending hrs downloading books to read later.why has fakku fallen?
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I just want my tags back and why have the apps stoped working?I loved going to there page spending hrs downloading books to read later.why has fakku fallen?
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ripdt
Zhinyo
greatkeith wrote...
I just want my tags back and why have the apps stoped working?I loved going to there page spending hrs downloading books to read later.why has fakku fallen?I only want the tags back as well. I was away from Fakku for a week or so and when I came back 4 pages of my favorite list were gone. 4..... And I don't like other websites like pururin. Not only the server is shit, the community is as well.
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Tsujoi
Social Media Manager
andromeda2010 wrote...
So how to know before I click the link that the hentai I am going to read is free or not?If it says "Fakku" in the publisher field then it's not free.