Was Hitler a evil person?

I'm beginning to believe we'll forget about 9/11 like most people have forgotten about pearl harbor. People love japan! ain't that right?!

The implications of what you have said sicken me.

Are you really saying that because a lot of Americans like Japan, it means that they have "forgotten" about Pearl Harbor? That's all kinds of fucked up. For one thing, the Japan that exists today is nothing like the Japan that existed when Pearl Harbor was attacked. A lot of Japanese people today look back at what happened during WWII and feel shame. And Japan doesn't hold rallies where they decry the United States and call for the death of its citizens. The country isn't trying to build up an army to destroy us. There is no reason to be angry with present-day Japan.

But what's the real message you're trying to send? That we shouldn't ever forgive Muslims for doing 9/11? That is also all kinds of fucked up. And I am so disgusted by it, I can't even say anymore right now.

Ugh.

Well, Japan...can't try to build up an army to destroy us. The United States has, since WWII, had some control over the Japanese military, to prevent just that. Although, I'm not really certain of the extent of this whole thing, I don't really know a lot about it.
But I don't mean to undercut Shaggy's point, because it is stupid to say that you are somehow committing treason by taking an interest in a country, or something from a country, that you have gone to war with in the past. It's like saying an English person is an asshole for liking a German beer.
We also can't hold the modern society of a country responsible for the sins of their Grandfathers. Remember, we also nuked the fuck right out of them.
And while it's true The United States did not get involved in the war because of Hitler's war crimes, it's also true that the extent of his war crimes was not fully clear until after the war was over. Most Allied soldiers were surprised by what they found in concentration camps.

Also, from what I've learned, the US government wanted to enter WWII before the attack on Pearl Harbor, but the citizens didn't want to. I'm not sure, but I imagine most citizens didn't think we needed to get involved because they didn't know just how bad things were. It makes sense; after all, the government would know a lot more details than the average citizen.

And thus the conspiracy theory that "The US Government staged Pearl Harbor!" started.

Yeah . . . It actually does seem probable, but it's unlikely. FDR doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would just let America be attacked. I'm sure he took advantage of the attack to convince the people that we needed to help in WWII, but he probably didn't like it.

Then again, Japan did have some reason to attack us. I don't remember how it all went, but we had blockaded some place so that Japan couldn't get there, and it was hurting the country. On the other hand, Japan was trying to hurt other countries at the same time, so it's hard to paint the issue in only black and white.

Exactly. War isn't about good and evil, because in war, good and evil are about perspective. And then, as has been said, the winners write the history books, so they are the "good" ones in the end, until someone more powerful comes along and wins bigger and writes new books.

Also, the conspiracy theory goes that FDR let it happen so that he could get a practical test for the Nuclear bomb.

Didn't the Nuclear bomb get developed towards the end of the war? Seems a little improbable nay, impossible that FDR would have allowed the destruction of the Pacific Navy to allow the test of a weapon that never existed (outside theory) before the beginning of the war.

August 2 1939 is when Albert Einstein sent the letter to FDR. The first test was on July 16 1945. Seems like a stretch that FDR would allow an attack to occur when the weapon wouldn't even be ready for trial runs until mid-late 1945 when the Pearl Harbor attack was on December 7 1941. Why would FDR risk treason and sacrifice all those lives just so he could use an untested weapon that would vaporize entire cities?

While there may be some merit to FDR allowing the attack to allow America to join WW2 but, I still stand by the idea that America was non-intervention (due to the fiasco of getting evolved in foreign affairs like WW1). Then the pearl harbor attack stirred the sleeping giant. Then Uncle Sam had to put his boot up Hitlers ass and give the emperor a good (and slightly savage) beating.

Yeah... I just watched Valkyrie with some friends, and I see where this thread came from.

Kind of.

Sorta.

[size=1]Not really... [/h]

Hey, I didn't say I believed it.
I didn't even say it made sense.
I just said some crazy people believed it.
Polio doesn't make you insane.

I was just questioning...

C'mon feed my hunger for knowledge!

mmm brain meats

I believe that Hitler was not an evil person, I believe he was misguided. When it came to the Jews he did what he did for two reasons.

First, he needed to topple the bank system so that he could destroy the horrific inflation that was hundreds of times worse than the great depression, and the banks were owned by the Jews.

Second, he misunderstood the principle of atonement he felt that the atonement of Jesus Christ, was an individual atonement, and he felt that an entire country from that line had to be sacrificed to purify a whole country. He wanted to change his countrymen into the Gods the scriptures said their lineage said they could be, and he needed a pure country to do it.

Also, he wasn't killing Jews out of 'racism' because he wasn't killing anyone simply because they weren't blond haired, and blue eyed, he just considered the Aryans superior, and those were genes only they had.

One of the reasons it wasn't out of racism, is because a good portion of the Jews were blond haired and blue eyed, thats why they had to wear the star of David so they could tell the difference! Most everyone in his country were descendants of Israel, and almost every white person on earth is.

The 'fakes' we call Jews today, are not from the line of Judah, they merely adopted the religion to keep from being slaughtered. They are from the line of [color=green]Esau[/color], who was the brother of Israel. They are known as [color=green]Arabs[/color]. The Jews that truly descend from Israel, and are of the line of Judah, are just as white as any other Aryan.

Many people don't like the word Aryan because of Hitler, and such. The truth is however that the original word comes from the word Elf which meant Eld or Eldar, which in turn came from Elder. It was used to describe the Older Race, in manuscripts back when people remembered that different races came at different times.

It was the older race because supposedly it was the race of Adam. His wife Sarah, begat the [color=darkred]Asians[/color].

His wife Lilith begat Cain, who's descendants were a [color=darkblue]beast race[/color]* which is mostly gone.

His wife Eve begat [color=blue]Aryans[/color].

Later Ham's child Canaan begat the Canaanites, which were later called Negroes([color=brown]Which is latin for the color black[/color]) And because people hate latin (I do too, I consider it the devil's language.) People call them black now, or [color=brown]Africans[/color] which is where the land of Canaan is. The African's race has also come to be associated with Cain, probably due to the fact that Cain had black skin too.

The [color=red]Native American race[/color] came last and somewhere around 600 BC, but I'm not going to the trouble of looking it up.


*(Some say that King Minas' Minotaur was of this race due to Illicit relations between one of its members and his wife.)





Ok, he was a lunatic.

Why the huge 20 ft tall colored letters? -_-

The Minotaur was real? And monsters are mostly gone but not completely gone?

maybe hitler did some good things for HIS people, but in the long run he killed thousands, and it was in the name of his greatness, and the greatness of germany. however i dont see germany's greatness. sure it was good intentioned, but for only the german people. its like this:if i took over fakku, becasue i wanted someone to have it better, and in the process i deleted countless peoples accounts, am i not too bad? i think when you compare what hitler did with what im talking about, there is no comparison. i think he was trying to be a great savior to his people, but ended up going too far.

hitler has changed many peoples views on things. his moustache, a symbol of evil, the swastika, a symbol of racism, putting your hand out strait and flat, means swearing allegiance to hitler. you cant say what he did to otehr people was just an accident or an act of misguided judgment on others. if i erased asians from the world, jsut because i thought they were going to start another war, im pretty sure everyone would think i was either crazy, stear clear of me, or in some cases, even hit me or beat me.

Well the other day I saw a headline about a flying troll in Canada. Heh, well how can we be certain if monsters are completely gone?



Sorry, but I figured it'd be easier to read and navigate than a solid uniform block of text, blame the guidelines, they put me up to it.

not all bad guys are bad. aside from his racism and craziness,he's a great leader to his country. i'm impressed by his hard work to lead the germans. there's no leader as great as Hitler (at least now).



from my limited knowledge,Lilith is a woman who mated with a demon who born the demons into this world

beast race only exist in myth,pal. if they were present here,i would marry Horo -_-a

Well, I put that because there was some conjecture about whether or he was merely what we now call African, or whether he had other strange features, if you wish to claim that the records we have from then are myth, then be my guest. I must merely say that if that is the case we likely live in an age of myth ourselves, we just won't know it for thousands of years. Till our descendants look back, and ask what we were smoking.

Also, from Apocryphal works and what not, it is clear (should you believe them.) that Lilith was 'date raped' or intoxicated and what not, by a slave in the garden, be it one of animalistic, demonic, or other origin, you can decide what you think.

Evil or not, It actually depends on your point of view, cuz if you were a Nazi hitler wouldn't be evil to you... :?