Why is it acceptable...?

I never thought I'd see the day when I'd agree with you, Harmonian. I think that, no matter what the word is, if it is used with discriminating intent against a person of another 'race', tehy are just as bad.

Then again, I do not believe in racism =D



Wait, what? -__- Where the hell is your logic in these remarks? The 'Black Slave' was not 'invented' by the discovery of America, black slaves has been around since... Well, I can't set a precise date, but probably for a few thousand years. And white people being slaves has been around for probably almost just as long; difference being it was white people who enslaved the other white people, not black people. Then I'm pretty sure there are whites that have been slaves to blacks as well, but yea... Your logic is fail.

You make it sound as if black parents sit down their children and say, "The word nigger is bad. It represents the white man's hatred for us."

It's not that every black child is conditioned to feel that the word is bad. It's that the word has a long history attached to it, and that history is very easy to learn.

Also, as with most prejudice terms, people learn that they are bad by witnessing their use. A child gets called a nigger by a scowling white person, and they feel that the word is negative. Later, they may learn about the history of their culture's plight and see that the word has been used for a long time. They may put two and two together and get that the white person used that specific term to cause harm.

The bite that comes from the word nigger isn't going to go away anytime soon. Even if it did, racists would come up with another word, and that word would be tied to hatred.

The term "cracker" isn't tied to hatred anywhere near as strongly as the term "nigger." That's why "cracker" doesn't hurt as much as "nigger." It is often said jokingly by people of all colors. I have heard a lot of white people even laugh when called a cracker or talk about how it's not hurtful to them in the least.

Nobody should use prejudice terms, but some prejudice terms are more powerful than others. If I started calling people from Canada "kloops," that would be racist, but who would be offended by that? In ten years, if the word took off, and it became very common, and said with a lot of hate, then it would be powerful. But unless people take it seriously, it's just a stupid action. That's what "cracker" is - it's something stupid to do (if it is used as an actual racist term).

In short, why is cracker more acceptable than nigger? Because people make it more appropriate. If someone thinks cracker is very offensive, that person should start a campaign to let people know that it is hurtful. It's not about majority or minority - it's about how people react to it.

Everyone's a little bit racist...

It's because, well, since the blacks have been opressed so much throughout history, the word "nigger" became banned after we realized that no, you can't do that. "Cracker", however, doesn't really have a history of slavery and bloodshed and is therefore more accepted. Plus, it has never been as "bad" of a word to use, therefore it doesn't really, at least to me, imply racism in such a degree as "nigger". That's what I think.

Out of curiosity, @Shaggy:

If Nigger, Nigga, and all of it's variations are deeply offensive to the black majority, why in the blue hells do I CONSTANTLY hear conversations amongst all-black groups consist of roughly 75% "yo, nigga"/"hey, nigga"/"whatchutalkinbout, nigga" and 25% something else?

I mean, if it's so damned insulting, stop saying it, yah?

Which reminds me, I don't think it's completely due to its history, but also how it is used. It's the context in which it is used that should make the word offensive (and does... sometimes). Apparently black people don't care when they call themselves nigga, but it's off limits for whites. Other times, blacks don't care when nigga is said, because of the context, like some white dude going "MY NIGGA!" (then doing some complicated handshake). Either way, I don't care what the word's history is, it should be considered "offensive" if said with hate (the context, people, pay attention to the context), otherwise, you shouldn't piss yourself over nothing.


Really, was that us? Me and you did all that? Damn.

Seriously though, those assholes from the past don't represent the white race for all generations, so let's not act like we are responsible for anything. No one deserves any special imaginary rights because of what some race did to another race a long time ago.

Because black people didn't fuck over white people for 300 years.

Every one genetic lineage has fucked over every other genetic lineage for at least a dozen generations at least three times in history, both recorded and non.

That argument holds no water.

I voted yes, since I do not believe in the implied "fact" that there is a difference in the severity of racial slurs, so the difference is therefor acceptable to me.

Since when have the white people been on the short end of the stick?

White people have fucked over other white people throughout history. England and Scotland/Ireland comes to mind without even opening a new tab for a google search. How about the Romans and the Guals, Franks & Samnites.

Bah, this conversation has been deemed stupid by the NAACP.
I'm sorry, it's easy for a black guy to understand the situation, and since no one wants to let it go, it doesn't matter if we explain it over and over again.
But, it would be nice if there wasn't a mention of how black people use the word nigger and how comparable it is to the word cracker.
Simple logic: First, address the root of the problem, not the surface.
White people could stop saying the word nigger, and stop asking if they could say it ends one problem, but since a good bit of white people are in groups like the KKK and arian whatever, it might be impossible, it's up to white people to fix that stupidity.
Black folks go on with their lives, and possibly start saying white bread instead, it's funnier.
End of story.

Throughout history white people attacked anything without enough power to defend themselves, especially other white people. Throughout history, without fail, predominantly white civilizations have caused mayhem and strife. Well, that's what American history teaches, only other heinous acts we ever learned about were Ganghis Kahn and those buggers committing genocide in Africa. Kind of ironic that they teach that sort of thing.

I can assume there's no logical debate behind your statement?

I had a long, very wordy post earlier, but I decided that was more than you deserved. So here it is, I don't really care about your qualms, and assumptions. What I said can be taken any which way. I'm going to go ahead and call racist on this one. You made a foul assumption that barely clips the point of my statement in favor of a racial stereotype. Whether or not I was trying to use every fiber of my intelligence on what I presume is a failed attempt to bolster your already fragile sense of self worth can be questioned, I'm human and I more than likely made a mistake somewhere.

*-The first draft was boring, so I quit and made a new slightly shorter one
**-Hostility? or Stating the facts? As far as I'm concerned, that's standard fair for my speech, you just don't like it
***-What discussion? You've just been trying to rag on my posts the whole time.
****-Not that I read no, just a lot of agreeing with a wrong idea, and a few posts that were shot down.
*****-Says the person that doesn't agree with me. As far as I can tell, you want everyone to agree with you.
******-Really? Fine then, feign stupidity.

Final statement, directed to whoever I just quoted, you seem to enjoy letting your opinion be known...

Wow, you really get me, good game man, good game, have fun reading what I had typed up before I realized that someone so stupid had to be a troll.

Most blacks who use variations of the word "nigger" weren't slaves, so the argument that they have the right to call white people "crackers" is bullshit(and i'm pretty sure most plantation owners are dead by now).

You can't yell at other people for being racist if you practice it yourself