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Symeria wrote...
actually weaver can lifesteal... Germinate will only override the orb effect if it's not in cooldown... so in the 2.5 seconds that germinate Cd's weaver can lifesteal... same goes for skadi and other orb items...as for the troll in range argument... trolls damage output, attack speed, move speed and armor is lower in range tan in melee so weaver has the advantage... if troll uses battle trance it's a simple thing to use sukuchi in burn away 1/2 of the duration...
if troll has satanic I just bid my time and wait till duration is over... troll can't catch up to weaver in terms of running away...
no arguements there. That weaver's sukuchi may be good for some small damage in the early game, but what that thing really does is chase whoever, or run away like a bat(rider) out of hell... it WOULD be a problem if the enemy has true sight like the gem, wards, or even the necronomicon. thus, that sukuchi would be good for merely the increase in MS.
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rober2 wrote...
Symeria wrote...
actually weaver can lifesteal... Germinate will only override the orb effect if it's not in cooldown... so in the 2.5 seconds that germinate Cd's weaver can lifesteal... same goes for skadi and other orb items...as for the troll in range argument... trolls damage output, attack speed, move speed and armor is lower in range tan in melee so weaver has the advantage... if troll uses battle trance it's a simple thing to use sukuchi in burn away 1/2 of the duration...
if troll has satanic I just bid my time and wait till duration is over... troll can't catch up to weaver in terms of running away...
no arguements there. That weaver's sukuchi may be good for some small damage in the early game, but what that thing really does is chase whoever, or run away like a bat(rider) out of hell... it WOULD be a problem if the enemy has true sight like the gem, wards, or even the necronomicon. thus, that sukuchi would be good for merely the increase in MS.
Skadhi is not a orb effect when its used by a range ^_^
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
Symeria wrote...
actually weaver can lifesteal... Germinate will only override the orb effect if it's not in cooldown... so in the 2.5 seconds that germinate Cd's weaver can lifesteal... same goes for skadi and other orb items...as for the troll in range argument... trolls damage output, attack speed, move speed and armor is lower in range tan in melee so weaver has the advantage... if troll uses battle trance it's a simple thing to use sukuchi in burn away 1/2 of the duration...
if troll has satanic I just bid my time and wait till duration is over... troll can't catch up to weaver in terms of running away...
no arguements there. That weaver's sukuchi may be good for some small damage in the early game, but what that thing really does is chase whoever, or run away like a bat(rider) out of hell... it WOULD be a problem if the enemy has true sight like the gem, wards, or even the necronomicon. thus, that sukuchi would be good for merely the increase in MS.
Skadhi is not a orb effect when its used by a range ^_^
SERIOUSLY?!?!?! O_o
NO WONDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MIXING SKADI WITH DESO OR MJO!
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rober2 wrote...
SERIOUSLY?!?!?! O_o
NO WONDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MIXING SKADI WITH DESO OR MJO!
i wonder how long you've been playing dota without even knowing that...
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rokushou wrote...
rober2 wrote...
SERIOUSLY?!?!?! O_o
NO WONDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MIXING SKADI WITH DESO OR MJO!
i wonder how long you've been playing dota without even knowing that...
its not common knowledge dude, i'm pretty there something you never notice while playing Dota.
For instance do you know that Tinker's Laser deals exact damage?, meaning if it says it's gonna deal 400 damage its gonna deal 400 damage no minus magic resistance or armor or anything.
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rokushou wrote...
rober2 wrote...
SERIOUSLY?!?!?! O_o
NO WONDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MIXING SKADI WITH DESO OR MJO!
i wonder how long you've been playing dota without even knowing that...
...I actually thought the effects of skadi and other orb effects was some sort of bug that my friends wanted to take advantage, not that we mind be them our enemy or allies.
...and I've been playing for over 2 years now... make than over 3.
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yup, i've been playing dota for 3 years and be the leader of my team, how the H*** i don't know that? you guys should go to dota-allstar more often....
Edit : sorry2. my bad.
hey, activating blade mail make us take 100% damage or it's reduced? yesterday, i use blade mail when my life is 600, and get "Fingered" by lion, but surprisingly, i didn't die.
Edit : sorry2. my bad.
hey, activating blade mail make us take 100% damage or it's reduced? yesterday, i use blade mail when my life is 600, and get "Fingered" by lion, but surprisingly, i didn't die.
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rokushou wrote...
yup, i've been playing dota for 3 years and be the leader of my team, how the H*** i don't know that? you guys should go to dota-allstar more often....Edit : sorry2. my bad.
hey, activating blade mail make us take 100% damage or it's reduced? yesterday, i use blade mail when my life is 600, and get "Fingered" by lion, but surprisingly, i didn't die.
all heroes have a passive magic resistance, usually it reduces around 50-100 magic damage i think
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If you wana talk about magic reduction, I heard of a situation that a spammed skill BARELY DEALS DAMAGE.
Although I forgot. there was this one gae where I was spamming my skills like crazy, BUT THEY GUY'S ARMOR AND REGENERATION RATE WAS SO FRIGGIN MONSTROUS THAT IT'S AS IF I WASN'T EVEN DOING ANYTHING AT ALL!!! LITERALLY!!
@rokushou
Irrelevant question...
... did you just call me "2"? Oh no reason.
Although I forgot. there was this one gae where I was spamming my skills like crazy, BUT THEY GUY'S ARMOR AND REGENERATION RATE WAS SO FRIGGIN MONSTROUS THAT IT'S AS IF I WASN'T EVEN DOING ANYTHING AT ALL!!! LITERALLY!!
@rokushou
Irrelevant question...
... did you just call me "2"? Oh no reason.
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well the situation you posted is largely dependent on the skill... if your skills cd is fast and deals buckets of damage(quil spray) well his regeneration will have a hard time regenerating that..
and i think he rokushou ment sorry, sorry...
and i think he rokushou ment sorry, sorry...
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yeah, sorry, sorry....
i don't wanna pick a fight here between all my brothers (and sisters?). All dota player are friend, okay?...
well, but this blade mail is so friggin' scary now. last time i use try to laguna blade to anubarak (+700 life, and 11 armor) that activated this blade, i got killed myself ( i cast it in 500 HP) when the anub'arak still alive with, err, "a one hit to kill" life. so annoying...
i don't wanna pick a fight here between all my brothers (and sisters?). All dota player are friend, okay?...
well, but this blade mail is so friggin' scary now. last time i use try to laguna blade to anubarak (+700 life, and 11 armor) that activated this blade, i got killed myself ( i cast it in 500 HP) when the anub'arak still alive with, err, "a one hit to kill" life. so annoying...
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rokushou wrote...
yeah, sorry, sorry....i don't wanna pick a fight here between all my brothers (and sisters?). All dota player are friend, okay?...
well, but this blade mail is so friggin' scary now. last time i use try to laguna blade to anubarak (+700 life, and 11 armor) that activated this blade, i got killed myself ( i cast it in 500 HP) when the anub'arak still alive with, err, "a one hit to kill" life. so annoying...
Yeah, that damn item can seriously turn the tide of any battle; a feeder can turn dangerous with that thing.
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ya, i wrote before how i didnt think blademail was powerful.
I take that all back :O, i had blademail on my centaur and no one wanted to touch me. Also something i learned, when Specter uses disperse skill with Blademail, she deals 100% Return damage + disperse damage to AOE!!!!!, holy shit thats fucking painful :O
I take that all back :O, i had blademail on my centaur and no one wanted to touch me. Also something i learned, when Specter uses disperse skill with Blademail, she deals 100% Return damage + disperse damage to AOE!!!!!, holy shit thats fucking painful :O
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
ya, i wrote before how i didnt think blademail was powerful.I take that all back :O, i had blademail on my centaur and no one wanted to touch me. Also something i learned, when Specter uses disperse skill with Blademail, she deals 100% Return damage + disperse damage to AOE!!!!!, holy shit thats fucking painful :O
oh fuck. THAT'S %120 OF PURE PAIN! you deal more damage than your enemy?! THAT'S SICK! Icefrog REALLY needs to nerf that damn item.
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rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
ya, i wrote before how i didnt think blademail was powerful.I take that all back :O, i had blademail on my centaur and no one wanted to touch me. Also something i learned, when Specter uses disperse skill with Blademail, she deals 100% Return damage + disperse damage to AOE!!!!!, holy shit thats fucking painful :O
oh fuck. THAT'S %120 OF PURE PAIN! you deal more damage than your enemy?! THAT'S SICK! Icefrog REALLY needs to nerf that damn item.
it has a 4 second duraton and a 15(or 30) second cooldown and deal magic damage so a bkb and repel renders it useless and magic resistance increasing item helps so it's pretty much balance... After activation you have a choice... to hit or not to hit... the only hero you should fear if he has a blade mail is axe... you'll be taking 3 seconds of 100% returned damage... no questions asked...
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Symeria wrote...
rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
ya, i wrote before how i didnt think blademail was powerful.I take that all back :O, i had blademail on my centaur and no one wanted to touch me. Also something i learned, when Specter uses disperse skill with Blademail, she deals 100% Return damage + disperse damage to AOE!!!!!, holy shit thats fucking painful :O
oh fuck. THAT'S %120 OF PURE PAIN! you deal more damage than your enemy?! THAT'S SICK! Icefrog REALLY needs to nerf that damn item.
it has a 4 second duraton and a 15(or 30) second cooldown and deal magic damage so a bkb and repel renders it useless and magic resistance increasing item helps so it's pretty much balance... After activation you have a choice... to hit or not to hit... the only hero you should fear if he has a blade mail is axe... you'll be taking 3 seconds of 100% returned damage... no questions asked...
not everyone is gonna buy a bkb just to counter Blademail....also remember ITS AOE, meaning you dont need to be the one hitting, it could your ally or so, if your ally hits really hard on Specter, its gonna hurt alot
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if it's your ally then you only take dispersion... then again if that ally is a Sven with Gs activated and your rastha with around 1/4 life left... that's gonna hurt...
but most cases spectre dies first before anyone dies from his disperese since it's based on the damage you deal...
sides if you think the disperse now is strong they you should see her when her dispersion was a %chance to disperse 100% of the damage + ministun on a 400 AoE...
but most cases spectre dies first before anyone dies from his disperese since it's based on the damage you deal...
sides if you think the disperse now is strong they you should see her when her dispersion was a %chance to disperse 100% of the damage + ministun on a 400 AoE...
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Symeria wrote...
if it's your ally then you only take dispersion... then again if that ally is a Sven with Gs activated and your rastha with around 1/4 life left... that's gonna hurt...but most cases spectre dies first before anyone dies from his disperese since it's based on the damage you deal...
sides if you think the disperse now is strong they you should see her when her dispersion was a %chance to disperse 100% of the damage + ministun on a 400 AoE...
no....when you activate blademail and it disperses you take AOE TAKES BOTH DAMAGE
i'm gonna try this out later