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*Fak_ku*
14 years ago
darykk168 wrote...
*Fak_ku* wrote...
I played through fate and ubw, but never went on to heaven's feel. I never liked Sakura, so it felt kind of unneeded. Anyone have a good reason for me to go on?


What do you not like about sakura?
I like her in the anime and she said the cutest thing in heavens feel my favorite line
Spoiler:
Senpai,am i dirty? then skirt flip XD



*Fak_ku wrote...
Ah well, I guess I'll go on for the sake of story, though allow me to rephrase what I meant when I didn't like Sakura. I didn't like her personality and attitude, so when I thought of playing a route focusing on her involvement with the holy grail stuff, my mind rejected the idea.
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Poki#3
14 years ago
There's more to Saber and Rin then it's first apparent, as you know from playing the first two routes. Sakura's the same.
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ddkotan
14 years ago
Omahunek wrote...
darykk168 wrote...
About HF normal end
Spoiler:
Huhuhu it's so unfair!I wanna kill the one's that thought of this ending.Such a sad ending waiting for Shirou for many many springs to fulfill there promise.Seriously made me cry T_T,there love here was unrewarded.


Honestly? She deserves it. The whole thing
Spoiler:
is all sakura's fault
anyways.

Poki#3 wrote...
@sifian_

Fate/UBW:
Spoiler:
It all comes down to Archer, really. It's a no brainer, as this is THE choice that changes the routes.
The first big change, is that Archer (if I remember correctly) killed Berserker at the graveyard (and if not killed, badly wounded). This caused Ilya to not come out to the forefront as much, and that made Caster be less worried about her, and allowed her to gather more energy and be more bold in her actions.

As far as HF goes:
Spoiler:
To me, the fact that Rider died quickly in HF caused Zouken to take drastic measures, and that was the main trigger. As you said, in the other routes Rider dies after a week or more, and it's too late to do anything at that point.

When Shinji had Rider in HF at first, he was a fresh master, and Rider was week because of it. In the other routes, it looks like she managed to regen some energy over that time.
And I don't recall any conversation about Rider not being able to use her Bellophon. Yeah, later Sakura was in pretty bad shape, due to the influence of Angra Manyu (spelling), but since that influence didn't manifest in the other routes, it was fine enough.


Spoiler:

1: You're right, the difference between UBW and Fate is Archer. Hell, UBW is all about Archer/Shirou (No, that is not a Yaoi slash [Although I don't know if that would count as masturbation or not...]). The catalyst difference in UBW is that Archer is actually present for long enough to not be killed by Berserker in Ilya's house, and forces Berserker off early on instead of Saber getting her ass kicked. Consequently, Shirou's love for Saber doesn't develop because he doesn't watch her nearly die (He kept flashing back to her all bloody and hunched over in Fate, if you recall).

2: In UBW, Berserker is killed by Gilgamesh after Caster takes Saber and Archer defects. Tohsaka and Shirou go to Ilya's looking for help, and Gilgamesh kills Berserker and takes Ilya's heart for later use in Holy-Grail-Summoning. That's also where Lancer becomes their friend, if I recall.

3: You're completely wrong about Rider. She never dies in HF. I think you're confused about something. But your second point, that the main difference for HF is Zouken's action, is completely correct. I think it has less to do with Rider as it does with Shirou meeting Zouken early on, though. It's not as obvious why that happens as it is in UBW, but... well, whatever. I didn't like HF anyways.

I totally agree. I liked Rin's and Saber's route way better than Sakura's. I didn't like the weird story line for it.. The heroine is a ... friend of men. That's a real let down i.i I don't think Shiro should be like that.
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Korzark
14 years ago
Whenever I try to start a window with no text and just a big X pops out and the game doesn't start.
Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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sifian_
14 years ago
are you using Japanese Locale?
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Korzark
14 years ago
Nope. I never figured out how to do that?
Can you tell me how to or send me a link to a tutorial of some sort?
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Kaimax Best Master-San
14 years ago
Korzark wrote...
Nope. I never figured out how to do that?
Can you tell me how to or send me a link to a tutorial of some sort?


The tutorial is in the game upload section, and it's stickied.
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Korzark
14 years ago
Ok thanks so much
Ive been dying to play Fate stay night
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Harontiar
14 years ago
How can I enter the Heaven's Feel route? Do I still need to finish the 2 endings in the Unlimited Blade Works route to be able to enter that route?
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Kaimax Best Master-San
14 years ago
gabrielz wrote...
How can I enter the Heaven's Feel route? Do I still need to finish the 2 endings in the Unlimited Blade Works route to be able to enter that route?


yes, you need to actually finish Fate and Unlimited Blade works first.
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Umbra_Elf
14 years ago
sifian_ wrote...
A better reason to play... One could say that the three routes are: Saber, Rin, Sakura. A perhaps more accurate way to phrase that is: Heroes, Masters, Circumstances. In the HF route you get a ton more of the nit and grit of why everything is happening the way it is than any of the other routes.


Actually, it would be more like the three routes are Saber, ARCHER, and then Sakura. You could have erased the romance with Rin in UBW and the story wouldn't have changed much. In fact, Nasu even said this himself. However, UBW played more like a love triangle than anything else.

More like, Fate is the idealism of a child, UBW is realizing that you need to make sacrifices for your dream but still reaching for it, Heaven's Feel is having to choose between the ideal and the reality and growing up.

That said, UBW is still my favorite route followed by Heaven's Feel with Fate being my least favorite of the three. UBW is just, well, it's COOL. Everything is turned on it's head early on, allies become enemies and enemies become AWESOME allies. Plus, all the Big Damn Heroes moments in the route as well from both Archer and Lancer.
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Hentanize rebaS
14 years ago
We all know that UBW is the GAR route. Fate remains my personal favorite ... I'm weak against sad endings.
Heaven's feel goes 3rd not because it was bad...It had an awesome story. I just don't like Sakura.
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Umbra_Elf
14 years ago
Hentanize wrote...
We all know that UBW is the GAR route. Fate remains my personal favorite ... I'm weak against sad endings.
Heaven's feel goes 3rd not because it was bad...It had an awesome story. I just don't like Sakura.


I honestly don't like Sakura either, but I do like Ilya and HF made me realize how awesome Kotomine was. However, I didn't like how quickly Lancer was taken out.
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darykk168
14 years ago
Umbra_Elf wrote...
Hentanize wrote...
We all know that UBW is the GAR route. Fate remains my personal favorite ... I'm weak against sad endings.
Heaven's feel goes 3rd not because it was bad...It had an awesome story. I just don't like Sakura.


I honestly don't like Sakura either, but I do like Ilya and HF made me realize how awesome Kotomine was. However, I didn't like how quickly Lancer was taken out.

Its only natural.
Spoiler:
True Assassin is one bad shit in the story and in-game =.=
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EmiyaKiritsugu
14 years ago
darykk168 wrote...
Umbra_Elf wrote...
Hentanize wrote...
We all know that UBW is the GAR route. Fate remains my personal favorite ... I'm weak against sad endings.
Heaven's feel goes 3rd not because it was bad...It had an awesome story. I just don't like Sakura.


I honestly don't like Sakura either, but I do like Ilya and HF made me realize how awesome Kotomine was. However, I didn't like how quickly Lancer was taken out.

Its only natural.
Spoiler:
True Assassin is one bad shit in the story and in-game =.=


why y'all hating on Sakura.

I love the girl cuz she gets the best ending out of the 3 routes IMHO.

oh and heres something:
Spoiler:
get all 40 bad endings and you'll get a movie with taiga and ilya explaining
the fate routes and how HF is the true ending of a sort.


oh and HF beats all routes for me cuz of this:
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Masterwolf
14 years ago
Ok I agree why the Sakura hate? From the first time I played the game it was obvious she was the one. Or is everyone as dense as the main character in not realizing she has been in love with him and he is in love with her even if he is too stupid to realize it. Actually the Tohsaka end annoyed me most since of the forced H-Scene.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
14 years ago
I'm still wondering too,
why hate an obviously completely defenseless girl, who's actually kind and caring but cannot fight her own "forced" fate.
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Uzumaki101
14 years ago
inb4 sarca-

Kaimax wrote...
I'm still wondering too,
why hate an obviously completely defenseless girl, who's actually kind and caring but cannot fight her own "forced" fate.



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Hentanize rebaS
14 years ago
I'm not hating on Sakura, she's just the one I like the less out of the 3.

It's maybe her personality that is just not my type.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
14 years ago
Hentanize wrote...
I'm not hating on Sakura, she's just the one I like the less out of the 3.


some of the people here hate her so much for a personal reason that I cannot comprehend.
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