The end of onemanga.com
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Kadushy
Douchebag
BloodyWind wrote...
Kadushy wrote...
I just remembered something.The last time I made an account at One Manga, I was banned like 3 days later. Don't know why. After making the account, I didn't even touch it or read anything at One Manga.
They simply hate ya.
I thought so.
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So without rage.
Is there any places resisting to delet all those stuffs ? Sure the'll be underground sites from now on, but I want to find them as soon as I can. I don't want to download manga.
Is there any places resisting to delet all those stuffs ? Sure the'll be underground sites from now on, but I want to find them as soon as I can. I don't want to download manga.
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It is my understanding that the coalition whose actions lead to OneManga's decision to take down all manga, have contacted the 30 largest manga sites, not just OneManga. They have also stated their intention to expand their list of sites, so I wouldn't expect to see the larger sites especially remaining up for too much longer.
Like it or not, the coalition is on extremely solid legal ground. It is not a matter of sites resisting or standing up for their rights - in this case, legally, they are clearly in violation of US and international law, and they (and their lawyers) know it. Too resist will only lead to fines, settlements and huge legal bills - and at the end, the site will come down anyway. The fact that the publisher have ignored, or declined to enforce, those rights in the past doesn't change the situation. In the past, sites such as OneManga did not have a large impact on the publisher's bottomline, in fact, it can be argued that they may actually have helped it. But times change, technology evolves and the publisher now find themselves in an entirely different situation.
Like it or not, the coalition is on extremely solid legal ground. It is not a matter of sites resisting or standing up for their rights - in this case, legally, they are clearly in violation of US and international law, and they (and their lawyers) know it. Too resist will only lead to fines, settlements and huge legal bills - and at the end, the site will come down anyway. The fact that the publisher have ignored, or declined to enforce, those rights in the past doesn't change the situation. In the past, sites such as OneManga did not have a large impact on the publisher's bottomline, in fact, it can be argued that they may actually have helped it. But times change, technology evolves and the publisher now find themselves in an entirely different situation.
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Most of you know about SC, but I would like to hear your response to 2ch's reactions over OM's demise. There were some comments about anime being cheaper in the US than in Japan. Well we are not as fortunate to live in a country that broadcasts epic anime live. I'm sure most otaku there record anime, does that count as piracy also? I buy manga also, but why should I have to wait years for that certain manga to be published into English compared to reading a fresh chapter online? If companies like Shonen Jump did Japanese and English translations for new chapters that would fix majority of the piracy issue, but of course that's not going happen.
omg a sanakau complex link.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/25/2ch-on-one-manga-good-riddance-to-foreign-thieves/
“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”
omg a sanakau complex link.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/25/2ch-on-one-manga-good-riddance-to-foreign-thieves/
“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Fuck Mangafox, it and its viruses and go the hell down.
The coalition is going to need to do more than just take down the manga hosting sites. Sure it made it easier to deal with reading manga online, but that won't stop the actual pirating cause well, the need we have isn't being met.
The primary one is that the International Translators (American Companies primarily) just outright suck at what they're doing.
They take years to release series. Will often purchase the rights to some and then just sit on them, for God knows why. What they do release tends to be inferior translating quality. And of course for all their horrible work, they are charging a mark-up of 200% or more.
As long as the need for faster, better translated and more reasonably priced works isn't met respectably, people are going to pirate because it doesn't really leave us with much of a choice.
The coalition is going to need to do more than just take down the manga hosting sites. Sure it made it easier to deal with reading manga online, but that won't stop the actual pirating cause well, the need we have isn't being met.
The primary one is that the International Translators (American Companies primarily) just outright suck at what they're doing.
They take years to release series. Will often purchase the rights to some and then just sit on them, for God knows why. What they do release tends to be inferior translating quality. And of course for all their horrible work, they are charging a mark-up of 200% or more.
As long as the need for faster, better translated and more reasonably priced works isn't met respectably, people are going to pirate because it doesn't really leave us with much of a choice.
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Jonoe... You do realize that this is all coming from 2ch, the Japanese equivalent of 4chan's /b/ on steroids, right?
Anything SC "reports" has little to no depth to it all, which is why people hate the site.
Anything SC "reports" has little to no depth to it all, which is why people hate the site.
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Kalistean wrote...
The coalition is going to need to do more than just take down the manga hosting sites. Sure it made it easier to deal with reading manga online, but that won't stop the actual pirating cause well, the need we have isn't being met.
The primary one is that the International Translators (American Companies primarily) just outright suck at what they're doing.
They take years to release series. Will often purchase the rights to some and then just sit on them, for God knows why. What they do release tends to be inferior translating quality. And of course for all their horrible work, they are charging a mark-up of 200% or more.
As long as the need for faster, better translated and more reasonably priced works isn't met respectably, people are going to pirate because it doesn't really leave us with much of a choice.
Like I said in my last post - times change. IMHO there have been several changes that brought on this change in policy:
Many of these sites have their roots in newsgroups and bulletin boards - in those days only a small minority (mainly us geeky type) could or would make use of them - impact was minor. In the "old" days, many publishers did NOT target North America/Europe as viable markets - impact was minor, maybe even slightly positive. Now, the internet and related technologies have matured and become viable delivery options, not just for a few geeks but for almost everyone. North America and Europe have become important markets and the overall health of the industry has taken a big hit. The real issue here is how did they stay viable as an industry for so long allowing major piracy? I'm surprised they allowed it to continue until now, and frankly we have been all been spoiled by the good fortune.
The real issue is stated in the post I quoted - will the industry step up and address the issues that have contributed to the core reasons of why piracy is so widespread? Sure some folks are just cheap and will always try to get things for free - even if it means stealing them, but I think most piracy results from the single fact that as the markets outside of Japan have grown - they have been very poorly served. If the coalition's enthusiasm for taking free manga off the Internet is accompanied by an equal, industry wide commitment to better service for their customers (and the verdict on that is still out on that one) then I truly believe we may be seeing the end of free manga sites as we now know them. If the industry addresses their issues and is smart enough to realize that the Internet can be their friend as well as their enemy and works to establish viable options, then it may actually be a good things for everyone - no one wins if the industry fails and we simply see an end to the industry because it is no longer financially viable. But look at some of the obvious flaws - Bleach is available officially in English only up to Season 5, and that just came out, Rosario = Vampire has never officially been translated or dubbed. And yes I said dubbed, you may not like them but to be successfully market outside Japan they will have to be dubbed. It is simply a market reality. The good thing is, DVDs and Blu-ray allow for dubbed and original subbed versions to easily go on the same disc, making very one happy. Wake up folks - make the product available, keep the quality up and you won't have a problem in the first place.
Sorry - I just realized I gave examples based on anime and not manga, but the principles remain the same - bad service will result in continued piracy.
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heheh ... because of something like this ..
i've seen many BON-tard's[bleach , onepiece, naruto retard]was really fucked ... lol .. (btw, not people in here... )
i've seen many BON-tard's[bleach , onepiece, naruto retard]was really fucked ... lol .. (btw, not people in here... )
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(Hope I was the first one to post this)
If some of you might notice, mostly or maybe all of the online manga sites are already "Bidding Farewell" for they would not entertain us anymore about reading mangas on the internet. I was informed about this a week ago, when a pop-up screen showed up on "ONEMANGA" site.
Well, due to curiosity, i started to search others site related and they all said the same thing.
It was something about this "License stuffs and copyright laws". Whatever it is, maybe we should abide with it anyway.
Well actually the most important question right now is, What would happen to avid manga readers? And what would happen to freelance manga entrepreneurs?
Maybe its time to make an important discussion about this matter in my opinion...
If some of you might notice, mostly or maybe all of the online manga sites are already "Bidding Farewell" for they would not entertain us anymore about reading mangas on the internet. I was informed about this a week ago, when a pop-up screen showed up on "ONEMANGA" site.
Well, due to curiosity, i started to search others site related and they all said the same thing.
It was something about this "License stuffs and copyright laws". Whatever it is, maybe we should abide with it anyway.
Well actually the most important question right now is, What would happen to avid manga readers? And what would happen to freelance manga entrepreneurs?
Maybe its time to make an important discussion about this matter in my opinion...
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http://citymanga.com/
http://www.mangareader.net/
http://www.mangavolume.com/
Theres already been so many threads after the wake of Onemanga.com.
Also https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=47130 Discuss here.
http://www.mangareader.net/
http://www.mangavolume.com/
Theres already been so many threads after the wake of Onemanga.com.
Also https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=47130 Discuss here.
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Dammit now where do i read these manga's->
High School of the dead
Wolf Guy - Wolfen
Deadman Wonderland
Ubel Blatt
Black Lagoon
High School of the dead
Wolf Guy - Wolfen
Deadman Wonderland
Ubel Blatt
Black Lagoon
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I was devastated when I saw the messege. I first encountered it while mangafox's server was done, so I thought it really was the end of manga.
Really though, I thought my life was over...
The thing is a lot of the mangas on OM were licensed and copyrighted therefore it was illegal for them to host them that way. Companies are now just starting to take a more aggressive approach to removing them. In most cases it will help them but as well as hurt them
Really though, I thought my life was over...
The thing is a lot of the mangas on OM were licensed and copyrighted therefore it was illegal for them to host them that way. Companies are now just starting to take a more aggressive approach to removing them. In most cases it will help them but as well as hurt them
