Why do people hate on dubs so much?
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People call themselves anime fans, yet they do everything they can to kill the official dubs.
The thing is, if your a real anime fan, you should support the dub, because if you buy the dub, you contribute money to the company that bought the rights, and they use that money to buy the rights to other anime, contributing the money to the people who make new anime.
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
The thing is, if your a real anime fan, you should support the dub, because if you buy the dub, you contribute money to the company that bought the rights, and they use that money to buy the rights to other anime, contributing the money to the people who make new anime.
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
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I wonder this every time I hear someone say that they hate dubs. I personally love dubs, but only if the voices are good. My favorite company when it comes to dubbing, is easily FUNimation~ They always get the best voices and they always yell when needed.
So to all of the anime fans who hate the dub (when the voices are great) should seriously reconsider their thoughts toward that anime in order to support the company and not just rely on the Japanese consumers.
So to all of the anime fans who hate the dub (when the voices are great) should seriously reconsider their thoughts toward that anime in order to support the company and not just rely on the Japanese consumers.
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I don't think that people hate dubs because of the company that does it.
I personally dislike dubs because at times the voice actors aren't really good. Let's face it, dubs sometimes destroys the anime and the character being dubbed. You get characters with a monotone voice, characters with the opposite pitch of the original voice, and sometimes some sentence don't come out as cool in english as it does in japanese.
I personally dislike dubs because at times the voice actors aren't really good. Let's face it, dubs sometimes destroys the anime and the character being dubbed. You get characters with a monotone voice, characters with the opposite pitch of the original voice, and sometimes some sentence don't come out as cool in english as it does in japanese.
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Kiss-Shot
Soba-Scans Staff
I only don't like them when I've been watching the japanese dub, I grow to be comfortable with those voices, so to hear it so differently usually creates a negative reaction.
But I prefer Spirited Away dubbed, I can watch the Japanese version but I find it weird and uncomfortable.
For me personally I wouldn't go as far as 'hating' dubs, I just personally prefer the japanese voices.
But I prefer Spirited Away dubbed, I can watch the Japanese version but I find it weird and uncomfortable.
For me personally I wouldn't go as far as 'hating' dubs, I just personally prefer the japanese voices.
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
Evnyofdeath wrote...
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
For me, it's all about the authenticity.
There is ALWAYS something lost when translating stuff into a different language.
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'Cause most of the changed dubs are shit...
The ppl who are voicing the characters are have a total bored tone, the not mach the characters and so on and so on. The first and (at the moment) last good english dub I get to know was the dub of Eureka Seven.
Why I like subs ?
-Original voices
-Reading is fun
-I can learn both english and japanese at the same time and it doesent feel like learning at all.
Thats my opinoin.
The ppl who are voicing the characters are have a total bored tone, the not mach the characters and so on and so on. The first and (at the moment) last good english dub I get to know was the dub of Eureka Seven.
Why I like subs ?
-Original voices
-Reading is fun
-I can learn both english and japanese at the same time and it doesent feel like learning at all.
Thats my opinoin.
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
Evnyofdeath wrote...
People call themselves anime fans, yet they do everything they can to kill the official dubs.The thing is, if your a real anime fan, you should support the dub, because if you buy the dub, you contribute money to the company that bought the rights, and they use that money to buy the rights to other anime, contributing the money to the people who make new anime.
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
Firstly when you buy dubs only some of the money goes to the Japanese company. Most of it goes to the licensing company that paid money in order to sell it in whatever company you go to. Also they redo the video and audio from the Japanese dvd/bd. It is because of these reasons I support only buying the Japanese raw. Everything goes right to the makers of the show. I don't have to worry about a middle man. I get everything how it was meant to be. As far as subs go I can just slap my own on the BD since I know how to do that.
The big reason I dislike the dubbing companies is because they send out things like C&D letters. Another contributing factor that I won't buy their dvds. Telling people in other counties that will never get the dvds or tv releases that they can not watch it is just stupid.
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For shortly by myself, dubs means it's in different language than in english therefor breaking the japanese feeling of it, making it look like it isn't even anime >_>
Most are pretty terrible dubs, but dunno about them that much; i avoid dubs at all costs.
Most are pretty terrible dubs, but dunno about them that much; i avoid dubs at all costs.
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So far, Hellsing and Hellsing OVA are the only animes I think have an appropriate dub to match the characters and overall setting and theme of it, although I prefer the the original japanese dub by a long-run... oh yeah, and I think Dante's Inferno too, but I've got a hunch it was originally released in english so... :D
For me, watching animes with their original dub is much more exciting and fun, and it helps me get more into the mood (not to mention that some dubs can completely ruin the whole anime)... Besides, who else can say "Onee-chan" better than a jap girl? ^_^
For me, watching animes with their original dub is much more exciting and fun, and it helps me get more into the mood (not to mention that some dubs can completely ruin the whole anime)... Besides, who else can say "Onee-chan" better than a jap girl? ^_^
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I have easily grown accustom to the Japanese dubs in shows because they sound better IMO, For American/Canadian shows ill listen to in english, but for Japanese id rather watch in its original glory. Its just a personal preference and would rather hear the original people who worked hard to create these characters first.
Plus my trust for dubs has fallen thanks to animes like: Excel Saga, Naruto, ALL 4kids dubs.
Plus my trust for dubs has fallen thanks to animes like: Excel Saga, Naruto, ALL 4kids dubs.
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Sindalf wrote...
Evnyofdeath wrote...
People call themselves anime fans, yet they do everything they can to kill the official dubs.The thing is, if your a real anime fan, you should support the dub, because if you buy the dub, you contribute money to the company that bought the rights, and they use that money to buy the rights to other anime, contributing the money to the people who make new anime.
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
Firstly when you buy dubs only some of the money goes to the Japanese company. Most of it goes to the licensing company that paid money in order to sell it in whatever company you go to. Also they redo the video and audio from the Japanese dvd/bd. It is because of these reasons I support only buying the Japanese raw. Everything goes right to the makers of the show. I don't have to worry about a middle man. I get everything how it was meant to be. As far as subs go I can just slap my own on the BD since I know how to do that.
The big reason I dislike the dubbing companies is because they send out things like C&D letters. Another contributing factor that I won't buy their dvds. Telling people in other counties that will never get the dvds or tv releases that they can not watch it is just stupid.
Still, money passes over to the people who make the series.
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But its better to get the Japanese version anyways. It feels like there is something missing in dubs. Honestly speaking, when i hear english from an anime, i get this feeling of dislike, becasue it doesn't feel like an anime anymore. Maybe its because i've gotten used to Japanese in anime, but I think English ruins the mood or something
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smashspite wrote...
I have easily grown accustom to the Japanese dubs in shows because they sound better IMO, For American/Canadian shows ill listen to in english, but for Japanese id rather watch in its original glory. Its just a personal preference and would rather hear the original people who worked hard to create these characters first.Plus my trust for dubs has fallen thanks to animes like: Excel Saga, Naruto, ALL 4kids dubs.
Well, the BLEACH dub is awesome.
The voices are an almost exact match (as close as two differnt people can sound alike.)
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First off I'm going to say that I prefer Subs, but I really don't care if a person likes Dubs or not. I really only care if you watch both versions (or at least one completely through, and the other watch a couple of episodes to compare) before you say you like one over the other. I'm actually studying Japanese (I don't know too much though) so when I watch Subs, I can understand a little of what's being said. To me at least, the quality of the voice actor is VERY importaint, but not as importaint as another factor, Location.
What I mean by this is that where an Anime takes place mainly decides in what language I watch a series. In series like Baccano, Hellsing, Cowboy Bebob, or Black Lagoon, where only 1 or none of the main characters is Japanese, and it doesn't take place in Japan (or only for a short time) I much rather watch it in English. I mean, perfect Japanese coming out of an old English Gentleman's mouth!? That's really akward to listen to for me. (Black Lagoon has a special honor in this case. The Creator himself, Rei Hiroe, said that all the dialogue in the Manga and Anime is supposed to be in English unless otherwise stated or shown in the story. Japanese is only done for the audience. There you have it! Right out of the horse's mouth! I mean, when you think about it, with such a multi-racial cast, the only common language the have amongst them is English! The same logic works for Cowboy Bebob). Not to mention these shows have absolutely brilliant Dubs, with excellent VA's.
On the other side of the coin, when you have a mostly Japanese cast or a Japanese setting (which is A LOT of Anime, or at least the ones I watch. To me, even imaginary worlds with characters that have just happen to have Japanese names or slightly modified Japanese names count in this catagory, ...... somewhat) I prefer to watch it Subbed. To me, to hear perfect English coming out of a Japanese High Schooler's mouth is odd and akward to listen to. Not to mention something like Lucky Star, where they keep in Japanese words that are not honorifics are kept in, like Onee-chan, or the random meaningless noises, like pittochina and the like. That's really creepy and odd to me. When it comes to what you should and shouldn't translate, I believe the ONLY thing you should never translate is "Cultural Terms" (by this I mean names of food, places, weapons, martial arts and martial arts terminology, etc. Chinese Marial arts and their terminology should be changed into the apropriate Chinese however. Usually Mandarin). For Honorifics, it depends. (if the setting and characters are heavily Japanese, keep them in. If the setting and characters are heavily Western or International, give English aproximations or just drop them all together). However, terms like Onee-chan or Baka, which have very clear translations that are not tied up to any one culture SHOULD be translated. The fact that I prefer Sub in these situations is very much true, even if the Dub is good!
To give examples: Haruhi Suzumiya and the 1st Negima series. I thought both of these dubs were really good. (Even though I thought Aya Hirano's Haruhi sounded much more youthful and vibrant that Wendee Lee's Haruhi, but I think that has more to do with the fact that Aya Hirano is now 22, and Wendee Lee is now 54. Aya Hirano sounds more youthful than Wendee Lee because she is MUCH younger than Wendee Lee, and no amount of acting is going to change that. And the Negima dubs are excellent in my opinion, even Negi's voice. I didn't think it was annoying or grating, and you have to commend Greg Ayres for being the only male VA, at least to my knowledge, to voice a young pre-pubesent boy. This role is usually voiced by older women. Negi's Seiyu is in fact a woman. But while the voice acting was great, it still couldn't save the 1st Negima series from being horrible in every possible way. I don't mention the 2nd series, which I actually liked, because it's Dub was bad. Not because of voice acting, which was very well done, possibly even better than the 1st series, but it's Humor and Referances were LOCALIZED and AMERICANIZED. That is utter bullshit, it is the purest of pure evil when it comes to Dubbing Anime. I don't care WHAT the reason is, you NEVER, EVER LOCALIZE a Dub). However, as the examples given above, when I watch these series, I still watch them Subbed. I still personally find the fact that unaccented, perfect English is coming out of their mouths to be strange, at least to me. (Not in the case of Negi, however). However, if the setting and characters are heavily Japanese and the Dub is good, I'll switch back and forth depending on my fancy that day (I still go to Sub more often). But if a series is heavily Japanese and the Dub is bad (like Azumanga Daioh and Lucky Star, for reasons mainly of voice acting) I never watch the Dub again. (There is only ONE exception to the rule: Samurai Champloo. It may be heavily Japanese, but the Dub is SO DAMN GOOD I don't like hearing it in Japanese. In my mind, it is the best Dub ever made).
But Dub or Sub, you should buy the DVDs if you really like or love a series. Not all of us have multi-region DVD players, so not all of us can get the Japanese DVD release shipped to us the minute it comes out. So most of us in the Western World have to wait for the region 1 (Dubbed) DVDs to come out. If you don't buy them, the companies tank (like Geneon) and we get no region 1 DVDs at all, and our source of Anime dries up. But hey, if you don't like watching Dubs (like me for the most part) do what I do: go to the disc options, and SET THE LANGUAGE TO JAPANESE!!!!!
I may prefer Subs, but if you like Dubs, that's no water off my back, as long as you experiance both Language options to judge which is better. The only thing I hate is when people say they hate Dubs and they use that as an excuse so they don't have to buy the DVD. The reason why Geneon went bankrupt and the reason why Gonzo is in spiraling debt is because of people like you. If you don't support the industry that makes your hobby, you can kiss your hobby goodbye.
What I mean by this is that where an Anime takes place mainly decides in what language I watch a series. In series like Baccano, Hellsing, Cowboy Bebob, or Black Lagoon, where only 1 or none of the main characters is Japanese, and it doesn't take place in Japan (or only for a short time) I much rather watch it in English. I mean, perfect Japanese coming out of an old English Gentleman's mouth!? That's really akward to listen to for me. (Black Lagoon has a special honor in this case. The Creator himself, Rei Hiroe, said that all the dialogue in the Manga and Anime is supposed to be in English unless otherwise stated or shown in the story. Japanese is only done for the audience. There you have it! Right out of the horse's mouth! I mean, when you think about it, with such a multi-racial cast, the only common language the have amongst them is English! The same logic works for Cowboy Bebob). Not to mention these shows have absolutely brilliant Dubs, with excellent VA's.
On the other side of the coin, when you have a mostly Japanese cast or a Japanese setting (which is A LOT of Anime, or at least the ones I watch. To me, even imaginary worlds with characters that have just happen to have Japanese names or slightly modified Japanese names count in this catagory, ...... somewhat) I prefer to watch it Subbed. To me, to hear perfect English coming out of a Japanese High Schooler's mouth is odd and akward to listen to. Not to mention something like Lucky Star, where they keep in Japanese words that are not honorifics are kept in, like Onee-chan, or the random meaningless noises, like pittochina and the like. That's really creepy and odd to me. When it comes to what you should and shouldn't translate, I believe the ONLY thing you should never translate is "Cultural Terms" (by this I mean names of food, places, weapons, martial arts and martial arts terminology, etc. Chinese Marial arts and their terminology should be changed into the apropriate Chinese however. Usually Mandarin). For Honorifics, it depends. (if the setting and characters are heavily Japanese, keep them in. If the setting and characters are heavily Western or International, give English aproximations or just drop them all together). However, terms like Onee-chan or Baka, which have very clear translations that are not tied up to any one culture SHOULD be translated. The fact that I prefer Sub in these situations is very much true, even if the Dub is good!
To give examples: Haruhi Suzumiya and the 1st Negima series. I thought both of these dubs were really good. (Even though I thought Aya Hirano's Haruhi sounded much more youthful and vibrant that Wendee Lee's Haruhi, but I think that has more to do with the fact that Aya Hirano is now 22, and Wendee Lee is now 54. Aya Hirano sounds more youthful than Wendee Lee because she is MUCH younger than Wendee Lee, and no amount of acting is going to change that. And the Negima dubs are excellent in my opinion, even Negi's voice. I didn't think it was annoying or grating, and you have to commend Greg Ayres for being the only male VA, at least to my knowledge, to voice a young pre-pubesent boy. This role is usually voiced by older women. Negi's Seiyu is in fact a woman. But while the voice acting was great, it still couldn't save the 1st Negima series from being horrible in every possible way. I don't mention the 2nd series, which I actually liked, because it's Dub was bad. Not because of voice acting, which was very well done, possibly even better than the 1st series, but it's Humor and Referances were LOCALIZED and AMERICANIZED. That is utter bullshit, it is the purest of pure evil when it comes to Dubbing Anime. I don't care WHAT the reason is, you NEVER, EVER LOCALIZE a Dub). However, as the examples given above, when I watch these series, I still watch them Subbed. I still personally find the fact that unaccented, perfect English is coming out of their mouths to be strange, at least to me. (Not in the case of Negi, however). However, if the setting and characters are heavily Japanese and the Dub is good, I'll switch back and forth depending on my fancy that day (I still go to Sub more often). But if a series is heavily Japanese and the Dub is bad (like Azumanga Daioh and Lucky Star, for reasons mainly of voice acting) I never watch the Dub again. (There is only ONE exception to the rule: Samurai Champloo. It may be heavily Japanese, but the Dub is SO DAMN GOOD I don't like hearing it in Japanese. In my mind, it is the best Dub ever made).
But Dub or Sub, you should buy the DVDs if you really like or love a series. Not all of us have multi-region DVD players, so not all of us can get the Japanese DVD release shipped to us the minute it comes out. So most of us in the Western World have to wait for the region 1 (Dubbed) DVDs to come out. If you don't buy them, the companies tank (like Geneon) and we get no region 1 DVDs at all, and our source of Anime dries up. But hey, if you don't like watching Dubs (like me for the most part) do what I do: go to the disc options, and SET THE LANGUAGE TO JAPANESE!!!!!
I may prefer Subs, but if you like Dubs, that's no water off my back, as long as you experiance both Language options to judge which is better. The only thing I hate is when people say they hate Dubs and they use that as an excuse so they don't have to buy the DVD. The reason why Geneon went bankrupt and the reason why Gonzo is in spiraling debt is because of people like you. If you don't support the industry that makes your hobby, you can kiss your hobby goodbye.
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Evnyofdeath wrote...
So, why do people hate on the dubs considering this?
Because dubs suck and ruin the anime with the crappy voice actors and whiny voices the give to portray everyone (excluding dbz). Now this thread should be locked sense my answer is so dead on.
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TheDarkStarAlchemist
Requests Moderator
English voice actor for anime cannot portray the feeling that goes into the anime for the most part. They either put not enough emotion into it, the voice is too damned exaggerated, or the tone is completely wrong. Few times can they get it right, but even then my opinion could be biased due to the fact that I saw them first in English. Full Metal Alchemist, Ghost In The Shell and Cowboy Bebop are in this category. I've also been told that Black Lagoon is an awesome Dub. I mostly stay away from dubs for these reasons.
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Me to be blunt i LOVE dubs idk why ppl dis like them even if you dont like the dub version there in no reason to bash them like really i feel unless you speak Japanese and English you have no right to compare cause you would not no what there was saying if the subs was not there well thats how i feel about this situation
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
TheDarkStarAlchemist wrote...
English voice actor for anime cannot portray the feeling that goes into the anime for the most part. They either put not enough emotion into it, the voice is too damned exaggerated, or the tone is completely wrong. it gets worst when they insert an accent to a character that originally doesn't have a accent at all. Try watching Stratos 4 Dubs and you'll know what I mean.
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I think that people hate on dubs because they have access to free anime. If their only source of anime was via TV then I think that people would support dubs. But since anyone can go online and watch pretty much any anime series in subbed form, it gives them a chance voice their annoyance on dub quality.
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I don't think being a "true anime fan" means you have to support things about an anime that you don't like - in this case, some companies are careless in who they cast and crank out poor quality dubs knowing that people who can't read subtitles fast enough will tolerate the dubs. How is it good to support something like that?
But I personally like dubs, especially the horrid ones because it gives me something to chuckle over. Many a classic moment was built off bad dubs. The only time when I don't like dubs is when there is no option on the DVD to revert back to Japanese and watch with subtitles. That makes me angry.
But I personally like dubs, especially the horrid ones because it gives me something to chuckle over. Many a classic moment was built off bad dubs. The only time when I don't like dubs is when there is no option on the DVD to revert back to Japanese and watch with subtitles. That makes me angry.