Why do people hate on dubs so much?
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Usually the people I know hate dubbed just becuase the simple fact that it is not in Japanese, uter okatues, uugghhh. I hate them so. I dont care if its subbed or dubbed, just give me anime. That is what I say. :)
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ghost1334 wrote...
Usually the people I know hate dubbed just becuase the simple fact that it is not in Japanese, uter okatues, uugghhh. I hate them so. I dont care if its subbed or dubbed, just give me anime. That is what I say. :)The word your looking for is weeaboo.
An Otaku is someone who is obssessed with something (usually used in the US to refer to someone very intersed in anime, however in Japan it can be used for many things)
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The only series I thought was good dubbed.
I think they did a pretty good job casting for the english dub. ^^
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I think they did a pretty good job casting for the english dub. ^^
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few factors.
Number 1. the fear of what happened to One Piece thanks to 4kids
Number 2. They usually make it more racist to ease it into 'American' culture
Number 3. Like Dragon Ball Z for example, they erased all the music and replaced it with their own.
Number 1. the fear of what happened to One Piece thanks to 4kids
Number 2. They usually make it more racist to ease it into 'American' culture
Number 3. Like Dragon Ball Z for example, they erased all the music and replaced it with their own.
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Haru-chan wrote...
The only series I thought was good dubbed.Spoiler:
I think they did a pretty good job casting for the english dub. ^^
Ouran Host Club was good either dubbed or subbed. They changed some of the dialog a little bit on the dubbed so it makes more sense at some parts. Not that there was anything wrong with that...
Now only if we could get a second season... I mean come on! the manga is still going!
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neko-chan wrote...
Haru-chan wrote...
The only series I thought was good dubbed.Spoiler:
I think they did a pretty good job casting for the english dub. ^^
Ouran Host Club was good either dubbed or subbed. They changed some of the dialog a little bit on the dubbed so it makes more sense at some parts. Not that there was anything wrong with that...
Now only if we could get a second season... I mean come on! the manga is still going!
Maybe if we send in enough hate mail they'll make the second season.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
the dub script isn't the actual translation script. It's been changed so that the words fit the moving mouths of the characters. A translation is already a delicate thing, as Nash said, with some things lost simply because it is going from one language to another. Dubs take that delicate thing and toss it around, caring more about the English words matching the mouths than the actual translation.Dubs have lied to us a lot of times, such as adding conversation where they should only be music. (Dragonball Z and Yu-Gi-Oh are the prime offenders of this that I know of.) When you're lied to, you get upset. It's only natural.
Temcor wrote...
most of the time the voice failed to bring out the character that the voice actor are voicing, they change the music/soundtrack of the anime, replace the OP with some annoying techno/hiphop music, alter the animations especially when changing anime marketed at teenage to a kiddy anime which is pretty ridiculous.Nashrakh wrote...
There is ALWAYS something lost when translating stuff into a different language.Evnyofdeath wrote...
Wow, I found that alot of these reason make sense, but as stated, there are several really good dubs. Just because some dubs (4kids ones in general) derail the original so bad, doesn't mean all of them do.Oh? Please state some other than GTO, Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon.
Also, just so you know, I hate American dubs, not dubs made by my country and by other southeast asia (compare yu-gi-oh american and Southeast asian. you'll know what i'm talking about)
mwong04 wrote...
few factors.Number 1. the fear of what happened to One Piece thanks to 4kids
Number 2. They usually make it more racist to ease it into 'American' culture
Number 3. Like Dragon Ball Z for example, they erased all the music and replaced it with their own.
I disagree with number two. don't they LESSEN the racism part? like changing the color of a brown kid to white, to avoid "racial" conflict >_>
Also, don't forget they tend to take away blood and "dangerous" stuff that kids will eventually learn (some, the hard way) at the age of 10, which totally makes the changes pointless
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Uzumaki101 wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
the dub script isn't the actual translation script. It's been changed so that the words fit the moving mouths of the characters. A translation is already a delicate thing, as Nash said, with some things lost simply because it is going from one language to another. Dubs take that delicate thing and toss it around, caring more about the English words matching the mouths than the actual translation.Dubs have lied to us a lot of times, such as adding conversation where they should only be music. (Dragonball Z and Yu-Gi-Oh are the prime offenders of this that I know of.) When you're lied to, you get upset. It's only natural.
Temcor wrote...
most of the time the voice failed to bring out the character that the voice actor are voicing, they change the music/soundtrack of the anime, replace the OP with some annoying techno/hiphop music, alter the animations especially when changing anime marketed at teenage to a kiddy anime which is pretty ridiculous.Nashrakh wrote...
There is ALWAYS something lost when translating stuff into a different language.Evnyofdeath wrote...
Wow, I found that alot of these reason make sense, but as stated, there are several really good dubs. Just because some dubs (4kids ones in general) derail the original so bad, doesn't mean all of them do.Oh? Please state some other than GTO, Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon.
Also, just so you know, I hate American dubs, not dubs made by my country and by other southeast asia (compare yu-gi-oh american and Southeast asian. you'll know what i'm talking about)
mwong04 wrote...
few factors.Number 1. the fear of what happened to One Piece thanks to 4kids
Number 2. They usually make it more racist to ease it into 'American' culture
Number 3. Like Dragon Ball Z for example, they erased all the music and replaced it with their own.
I disagree with number two. don't they LESSEN the racism part? like changing the color of a brown kid to white, to avoid "racial" conflict >_>
Also, don't forget they tend to take away blood and "dangerous" stuff that kids will eventually learn (some, the hard way) at the age of 10, which totally makes the changes pointless
Actually, that censorship (for the blood and gore at least) is also in the Japanese versions.
When it comes to the US, some dubbers (4kids again) overcensor the series, to change it from a show aimed at teens, to a show aimed at little kids.
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GreenZero
Get Jinxed
I don't hate dubs but i dislike them because most of them SUCK, but there are some dubs that are very good and a few who is as good as the original japanese and some extremely few dubs that i actually prefer over the sub like the Desert Punk dub-
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Harmonian wrote...
Superior Japanese vocals.Inferior English vocals.
Do you understand japanese? No offence but I get the feeling you don't because some japanese vocals sound chessey as well and it also is weird hearing the same voice actor over and over doing the same character type for every anime.
That said, I agree that most english dubbing is low quality.
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Nothing against it personally but most of the voices used sound far to feminine and whiny. Although I don't hate on dubs for no reason or simply because they are dubs.
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neko-chan wrote...
Do you understand japanese?I don't and thats all the more reason as to why the Japanese vocals sound superior.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
neko-chan wrote...
it also is weird hearing the same voice actor over and over doing the same character type for every anime. You don't watch too many anime, huh?
and coincidentally all the anime you watched has the same set of VA and characters..
ie: Shakugan no Shana Zero no tsukaima, Hayate no Gotoku, toradora
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Evnyofdeath wrote...
Actually, that censorship (for the blood and gore at least) is also in the Japanese versions.When it comes to the US, some dubbers (4kids again) overcensor the series, to change it from a show aimed at teens, to a show aimed at little kids.
Not to the point that blood is nonexistant though. Also, you haven't cited some good dubs yet
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most dubs sucks, thats fact.
most dubs i seen:
- have tendency to ignore/silencing non-word human voices.
- ignorant honorific treatment,
it doesn't seems right with other language than the orginal,
so most dubs obliterate'em making the honorific related scene become well.., sucks.
- bad adaptaion of dialect/accent treatment,
i realy can't stomach some texas or australian accent, to be used as accent by some people from the less metropolis part of japan,
otherwise most dubers also tend to make all accent/dialect uniform.
dubbing company who actualy make good consideration of above points might produce good quality dubs.
most dubs i seen:
- have tendency to ignore/silencing non-word human voices.
- ignorant honorific treatment,
it doesn't seems right with other language than the orginal,
so most dubs obliterate'em making the honorific related scene become well.., sucks.
- bad adaptaion of dialect/accent treatment,
i realy can't stomach some texas or australian accent, to be used as accent by some people from the less metropolis part of japan,
otherwise most dubers also tend to make all accent/dialect uniform.
dubbing company who actualy make good consideration of above points might produce good quality dubs.
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I don't hate all dubs. But If I watch the jap version first, then, of course, I'm going to criticize the dubbed version. Sometimes the dub sounds a bit forced.
However, there are some awesome dubs out there! =]
However, there are some awesome dubs out there! =]
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Kaimax wrote...
Spoiler:
You don't watch too many anime, huh?
and coincidentally all the anime you watched has the same set of VA and characters..
ie: Shakugan no Shana Zero no tsukaima, Hayate no Gotoku, toradora
O__O have you been stalking me?
I'm not saying it is a BIG problem, but it happens ALMOST as much as it does in english entertainment. Take the guy who does the voice for Nathan Drake in Uncharted. He does the voice over for EVERYTHING.
Noriaki Sugiyama does the voice for Sasuke from Naruto, the voice for Shirou from F/SN, and the voice of Ishida from Bleach. I'm not annoyed by it, he is a good seiyu and when you're good you're in demand. But some of that immersion is gone when like you mentioned, Taiga sounds like that whining Nagi from Hayate no gotoku.
Like Harmonian said, he doesn't understand it so that is what helps makes it better. I completely understand what he is saying.