[Locked] Debate on Moving and Merging of Threads (Former Title: Paul)

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change all of the points that have been brought up.

We care about post count because there is a rule about it, someone higher up thinks its an issue and so we must. It's true the thread might get bumped back, but it also may see an increase in users posting in it, you did say it was something everyone enjoys. It's clearly similar to other threads in the section, there was even already a thread which had the exact same concept in the section already. The content in the thread was as Matt said, a perfect fit for CTFG. No amount of argument will change these facts.

You told me to talk to the other staff and I did, for the most part they agree with my actions, it's time to accept it now.

if post count is such an issue then why not just get rid of the number?

And if gambler agrees then i'll accept it. Doesn't mean i have to agree with it though.

Suggest it to Jacob. He wont say yes but it's an idea.

Edit; to the second point, you'll accept it either way, One of the admins and 3/4 global moderators agree, even if Gamb were to reject the idea the thread isnt moving now.

I know that's a lost cause. Times change and things change yet jacob is reluctant and wants to stick with outdated principles and rules like parents are.

Tbh you could just leave the thread in the music section and make the posts not count towards post count, which isn't even hard to code and everyone wins.

Ironic though, you say this isn't a democracy yet you use democratic theory in that instance.

More like you keep bitching about what the other mods think and he keeps saying they agree with him.

like i said i'll accept their decision and opinions as fair, but it doesn't mean i'll agree with them.

You just said Paul was using the democratic method with the other mods. You said it right fucking here:



Are you stupid?

i really don't see what point you're trying to make.

i was just pointing out that previously in the thread he refuted the justification of majority rules when users said a majority of users wanted the thread to stay in music because fakku isnt't a democracy and then at that instance he uses a majority rules to justify his outcome.

It's still not really majority rule, what seals this is the fact that an admin weighed in on it. When I said it wasn't a democracy I was referring to the general population of Fakku. I don't understand it though, you complained about my way of doing things and when I decided to do as you asked and consult the other staff members you then decided to call me out on it? What do you want from me? Should I hear you out or ignore you ideas?

uh what. I have nothing against you. You did what i wanted and i am content with how the result was achieved and the process, it doesn't mean i agree with the said end result though.

I just don't see any irony when the only reason I asked them was due to your request... I'm not offended I just don't get why you're pointing it out.

I agree throwing it to the CTFG section, but I seriously don't agree merging it with "What are you listening to right now?" thread. Those are two different topics.

Yeah that was a mistake, they do both belong in the chat section but the merger was simply something I could not undo.

So basically you moved that thread because of post counts?? Seriously?

EDIT: Nice move, just like when someone deleted my 3,000,000 post for no apparent reason.

That and they felt that the thread belonged in CTFG. Fuck the system.

I don't know why you people are so persistent to stick that thread on the music section. What is so special about it?

I have read some of the posts here. I will state some possible arguments on a different perspective.

>> You don't want it on the CTFG section because it will just be ignored by the users there, thus, it will go down to the bottom for some time.

>> You want it on the Music section, so that music enthusiasts would be able to see it right away.

I remember saying this on the other thread...

After reading this entire thread, I'm pretty much with Anesthetize on this one.
I suppose I've been convinced the thread belongs in CTFG but like Anesthetize said, the thread is rather tedious to find now. Sadly I've lost almost all connection/interest to the thread due to this problem. Perhaps an alternative or compromise would be to come back to the "fixing the search feature" debate.

Mod Note: I have edited the title of this thread a little, to make it more relevant.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

Getting back on topic, Waar has PM-ed me on the issue. Here is my opinion and suggestion with regards to this particular incident.

What has been done cannot be undone, especially the merge. I believe Waar has his reasons for moving and merging both threads, even though some of us may disagree with the decision.

However, at the same time, I propose the following: Members be allowed to create one last version of "Rate the Song Above You" in the Music section. However, this time round, the title should be "Rate the Song Above You (With Justification or Reasons)". Users are no longer allowed to simply provide a numerical rating.

Example #1 (No longer allowed): 8/10
Example #2 (Recommendation): I give this song a rating of 8/10 mainly because of its lyrics. Unique words were used, rhyming with one another and it expresses happiness perfectly.

In addition, members who care about the thread should report spam immediately (aka numerical rating or successive posts within a short period of time) so that staff members can delete these posts immediately. In my opinion, if you truly care about a discussion, you will try your best to retain it.

Again, both ordinary members and staff members may not agree with my proposal due to the work involved. However, I wish to give everyone an opportunity to prove that certain topics should rightly belong in certain sections. The same goes for Video Games, Food and Cooking, etc.

This will be your last opportunnity. If it does not work out, then Chat Topics and Forum Games may be where it truly belongs.


Thank you for your time and understanding.

I think the major issue here was how this was handled, on both sides. some of the mods were less than professional, and the users overly critical.

i like Gamblers suggestion of a justification/reason/explination for the rating given. i had an idea about the frequency of posting: you must wait for at least three other people to post before you can post again.