[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal
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I didn't think I'd be saying this any time soon, but more than half of my favorites just disappeared, and I'm rather pissed off ;-;
Looks like I'll probably end up on Pururin or something, unless there are changes happening that will restore my favorites that I haven't heard about yet.
Looks like I'll probably end up on Pururin or something, unless there are changes happening that will restore my favorites that I haven't heard about yet.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Of course 4-5 chapter idea is hypothetical. One of the translators put up the idea if there was a chapter buying option then 2 bucks would be somewhat the charge. If a dollar was given then 7-9 is a ballpark.
If I buy a single chapter, I expect that I will be able to view it whenever I feel like it.
However nearly every single monthly subscription model out there will gate you when you stop paying.
Aka I can view alot more but only aslong as I pay up each month.
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Thanks for answering my questions, While I am used to getting hentai free and it will feel weird to buy it. I think it's great to be able to help support the artists, just hope that all the removed content will be up someday.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Roqr wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Of course 4-5 chapter idea is hypothetical. One of the translators put up the idea if there was a chapter buying option then 2 bucks would be somewhat the charge. If a dollar was given then 7-9 is a ballpark.
If I buy a single chapter, I expect that I will be able to view it whenever I feel like it.
However nearly every single monthly subscription model out there will gate you when you stop paying.
Aka I can view alot more but only aslong as I pay up each month.
I'm not sure. It could be that your chapter is only available for a month or there's a download button I can't really say. I'm thinking that the subscription is online and downloadable. Jacob already said there is no per chapter option anyway. Something about only the most popular artists would be bought and he didn't want to play favorites. Seems reasonable. I guess we'll have to wait and see what he does. Shouldn't really matter anyway. All fakku content it will be uploaded somewhere else or on a torrent site. All the free magazine scans he was previewing are already. I'm amazed cute assort isn't.
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Well, this most definitely sucks... It's understandable and respectable that you want to make Fakku a "clean" site and all, but that's not how Fakku got to where it is right now, It's like backstabbing the huge % of the community that can't afford to pay for hentai...
It won't be the same for those who can pay either, since most of us will be leaving, and the community is what made Fakku so awesome...
At least there's a schedule, and you're giving people time, so that's something...
It won't be the same for those who can pay either, since most of us will be leaving, and the community is what made Fakku so awesome...
At least there's a schedule, and you're giving people time, so that's something...
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Jacob already said there is no per chapter option anyway. Something about only the most popular artists would be bought and he didn't want to play favorites. Seems reasonable.It's really good to give the smaller names some time in the sun, along with the big names and all that.
And it's true a publisher shouldn't play favorites, however a healthy market should dictate itself.
Bundling them gives a nice exposure to people who might otherwise not have picked up that title, however that is at the cost of effectivly strangling the sale of the popular names.
From a business standpoint it's not really an enticing offer for the names that bring in the customers to begin with.
This is all assuming the revenue get an equal split among all the artists in that block.
Now, don't get me wrong and all, I love the site and I wouldn't be discussing it if I didn't care about the outcome.
I even pre-ordered the first book as paperback when it came out, but digital goods and subscriptions tend to be a bit of a grey-area for the customer.
Esp. when it comes to the question whether you own the goods or not.
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Paradox Jast
Has seen things...
Oh how I long for the day when FAKKU has such a large selection of things to read/look at/admire that Steam Sales and Fakku Sales will be synonymous with each other.
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
Roqr wrote...
It's really good to give the smaller names some time in the sun, along with the big names and all that.And it's true a publisher shouldn't play favorites, however a healthy market should dictate itself.
Bundling them gives a nice exposure to people who might otherwise not have picked up that title, however that is at the cost of effectivly strangling the sale of the popular names.
From a business standpoint it's not really an enticing offer for the names that bring in the customers to begin with.
This is all assuming the revenue get an equal split among all the artists in that block.
Since we're talking about full magazine translations here, in the end you get the same what you would get if you bought the Japanese version. The names you know and love (or hate), as well as the newcomers you might otherwise never notice. And there's no reason to pick more popular authors over others either since they would do these particular stories for these Japanese magazines anyway, English release or not.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
luinthoron wrote...
Roqr wrote...
It's really good to give the smaller names some time in the sun, along with the big names and all that.And it's true a publisher shouldn't play favorites, however a healthy market should dictate itself.
Bundling them gives a nice exposure to people who might otherwise not have picked up that title, however that is at the cost of effectivly strangling the sale of the popular names.
From a business standpoint it's not really an enticing offer for the names that bring in the customers to begin with.
This is all assuming the revenue get an equal split among all the artists in that block.
Since we're talking about full magazine translations here, in the end you get the same what you would get if you bought the Japanese version. The names you know and love (or hate), as well as the newcomers you might otherwise never notice. And there's no reason to pick more popular authors over others either since they would do these particular stories for these Japanese magazines anyway, English release or not.
Don't forget we're getting them minus the black sensor snake
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
Drifter995 wrote...
luinthoron wrote...
Roqr wrote...
It's really good to give the smaller names some time in the sun, along with the big names and all that.And it's true a publisher shouldn't play favorites, however a healthy market should dictate itself.
Bundling them gives a nice exposure to people who might otherwise not have picked up that title, however that is at the cost of effectivly strangling the sale of the popular names.
From a business standpoint it's not really an enticing offer for the names that bring in the customers to begin with.
This is all assuming the revenue get an equal split among all the artists in that block.
Since we're talking about full magazine translations here, in the end you get the same what you would get if you bought the Japanese version. The names you know and love (or hate), as well as the newcomers you might otherwise never notice. And there's no reason to pick more popular authors over others either since they would do these particular stories for these Japanese magazines anyway, English release or not.
Don't forget we're getting them minus the black sensor snake
Right. Plus that.
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ToyManC
Forgot my safe word
I had questions, regarding how the content ban will effect the forums sections.
Firstly, will the content within the Nosebleed section also be deleted in accordance with the new restrictions? Also, will this effect any images users post within the confines of any other thread posts?
Secondly, If the content ban extends to images (Nosebleed), I assume there will be some notice prior to any action taken to members who post images that are no longer acceptable to the site, or are the changes only to be enforced on the Manga and Doujinshi sections? While the traffic in the nosebleed section has dropped considerably since I became a member, it is practically a ghost town, now, and I wonder if it is due to members thinking they'll be punished for uploading images that are now restricted.
Lastly, does the changeover to a pay site signal an end to the forums as a free medium? Will access to those sections only be available to paying members? Or will the forums simply cease to exist? It seems to me, that keeping the forums free would enable you to showcase your goods to possible new paying customers, while keeping the spirit of the forums community intact, and also allowing you to keep a finger on the pulse of the market's changing interests and trends.
I do not ask these things because I resent, or protest, Fakku's move to legitimacy, but I simply wish to know how the changes to this site will effect what has become a part of my daily life, even if I don't post as much as some other long-term members. To be honest, I doubt I will ever be a good enough customer to justify paying for membership just to make the occasional post, or share my favorite images with the community.
I apologize if these questions have been answered in other threads. If so, I must have missed them.
Firstly, will the content within the Nosebleed section also be deleted in accordance with the new restrictions? Also, will this effect any images users post within the confines of any other thread posts?
Secondly, If the content ban extends to images (Nosebleed), I assume there will be some notice prior to any action taken to members who post images that are no longer acceptable to the site, or are the changes only to be enforced on the Manga and Doujinshi sections? While the traffic in the nosebleed section has dropped considerably since I became a member, it is practically a ghost town, now, and I wonder if it is due to members thinking they'll be punished for uploading images that are now restricted.
Lastly, does the changeover to a pay site signal an end to the forums as a free medium? Will access to those sections only be available to paying members? Or will the forums simply cease to exist? It seems to me, that keeping the forums free would enable you to showcase your goods to possible new paying customers, while keeping the spirit of the forums community intact, and also allowing you to keep a finger on the pulse of the market's changing interests and trends.
I do not ask these things because I resent, or protest, Fakku's move to legitimacy, but I simply wish to know how the changes to this site will effect what has become a part of my daily life, even if I don't post as much as some other long-term members. To be honest, I doubt I will ever be a good enough customer to justify paying for membership just to make the occasional post, or share my favorite images with the community.
I apologize if these questions have been answered in other threads. If so, I must have missed them.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
ToyManC wrote...
I had questions, regarding how the content ban will effect the forums sections.Firstly, will the content within the Nosebleed section also be deleted in accordance with the new restrictions? Also, will this effect any images users post within the confines of any other thread posts?
Secondly, If the content ban extends to images (Nosebleed), I assume there will be some notice prior to any action taken to members who post images that are no longer acceptable to the site, or are the changes only to be enforced on the Manga and Doujinshi sections? While the traffic in the nosebleed section has dropped considerably since I became a member, it is practically a ghost town, now, and I wonder if it is due to members thinking they'll be punished for uploading images that are now restricted.
Lastly, does the changeover to a pay site signal an end to the forums as a free medium? Will access to those sections only be available to paying members? Or will the forums simply cease to exist? It seems to me, that keeping the forums free would enable you to showcase your goods to possible new paying customers, while keeping the spirit of the forums community intact, and also allowing you to keep a finger on the pulse of the market's changing interests and trends.
I do not ask these things because I resent, or protest, Fakku's move to legitimacy, but I simply wish to know how the changes to this site will effect what has become a part of my daily life, even if I don't post as much as some other long-term members. To be honest, I doubt I will ever be a good enough customer to justify paying for membership just to make the occasional post, or share my favorite images with the community.
I apologize if these questions have been answered in other threads. If so, I must have missed them.
I'm not sure if you are talking about posting images like incest or monster girl or Manga snippets but the site isn't banning what images you can post outside of guro/vore /toddercon like we always had before. The manga upload section was gone before all this happen.
The forums shouldn't be affected by the subscription of the magazine. This whole issue is about unlicensed manga and Doujin on the reader. Not the posting of images.
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ToyManC wrote...
I had questions, regarding how the content ban will effect the forums sections.Firstly, will the content within the Nosebleed section also be deleted in accordance with the new restrictions? Also, will this effect any images users post within the confines of any other thread posts?
Secondly, If the content ban extends to images (Nosebleed), I assume there will be some notice prior to any action taken to members who post images that are no longer acceptable to the site, or are the changes only to be enforced on the Manga and Doujinshi sections? While the traffic in the nosebleed section has dropped considerably since I became a member, it is practically a ghost town, now, and I wonder if it is due to members thinking they'll be punished for uploading images that are now restricted.
Lastly, does the changeover to a pay site signal an end to the forums as a free medium? Will access to those sections only be available to paying members? Or will the forums simply cease to exist? It seems to me, that keeping the forums free would enable you to showcase your goods to possible new paying customers, while keeping the spirit of the forums community intact, and also allowing you to keep a finger on the pulse of the market's changing interests and trends.
I do not ask these things because I resent, or protest, Fakku's move to legitimacy, but I simply wish to know how the changes to this site will effect what has become a part of my daily life, even if I don't post as much as some other long-term members. To be honest, I doubt I will ever be a good enough customer to justify paying for membership just to make the occasional post, or share my favorite images with the community.
I apologize if these questions have been answered in other threads. If so, I must have missed them.
The forums should not be affected, they will remain completely open and free.
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ToyManC
Forgot my safe word
Jacob wrote...
ToyManC wrote...
I had questions, regarding how the content ban will effect the forums sections.Firstly, will the content within the Nosebleed section also be deleted in accordance with the new restrictions? Also, will this effect any images users post within the confines of any other thread posts?
Secondly, If the content ban extends to images (Nosebleed), I assume there will be some notice prior to any action taken to members who post images that are no longer acceptable to the site, or are the changes only to be enforced on the Manga and Doujinshi sections? While the traffic in the nosebleed section has dropped considerably since I became a member, it is practically a ghost town, now, and I wonder if it is due to members thinking they'll be punished for uploading images that are now restricted.
Lastly, does the changeover to a pay site signal an end to the forums as a free medium? Will access to those sections only be available to paying members? Or will the forums simply cease to exist? It seems to me, that keeping the forums free would enable you to showcase your goods to possible new paying customers, while keeping the spirit of the forums community intact, and also allowing you to keep a finger on the pulse of the market's changing interests and trends.
I do not ask these things because I resent, or protest, Fakku's move to legitimacy, but I simply wish to know how the changes to this site will effect what has become a part of my daily life, even if I don't post as much as some other long-term members. To be honest, I doubt I will ever be a good enough customer to justify paying for membership just to make the occasional post, or share my favorite images with the community.
I apologize if these questions have been answered in other threads. If so, I must have missed them.
The forums should not be affected, they will remain completely open and free.
That's what I needed to know. Thank you, and Animefreak for your responses.
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One thing just came up in my mind. Wouldn't it be possible to just move the unlicensed Content to another Domain and keep just the offical FAKKU ''clean''? Since I'm no adept in such things I don't even know it that's even possible or just to expensive q.q But I'm just curious if that's something doable.
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YQII
FAKKU Translator
That should be very doable, but it's a rather questionable move. Even if you forget about the moral aspects, it doesn't make sense for us to try to pull a fast one on our potential business partners.
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Bladesaber
Vanilla Enthusiast
What could (Theoretically) work is that someone else could make a website similar, but not the same, as fakku, or at least as effective at what it does, and have the content there. There's already plenty of other sites that work just as effectively as this one does, but I've come to hear that the layout of fakku makes things easier for most.
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erolover
Ero Maniac
YQII wrote...
That should be very doable, but it's a rather questionable move. Even if you forget about the moral aspects, it doesn't make sense for us to try to pull a fast one on our potential business partners.Yeah, I'd rather FAKKU not risk ruining current or future partnerships by doing something like that, especially since it can screw over people who are trying to legitimately support the artists.
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I'm beginning to get really sick of all of this legal crap. None of this mattered a year ago! I mean, come on! This isn't Saint FUCKING Peter's basilica! Underaged girls get fucked so silly it's a search option for God's sakes! Think about it! At least in the states, the distribution of sexually explicit images of anyone under 18 is illegal! By that standard, a vast majority of the content on this site, highschool girls in particular, is illegal! That doesn't even cover student-teacher relations, rape, beastiality, or any of the other debauchery filling this sight! I'm not on a crusade here! I read most of that!
On the other hand, if the issue is the artist not getting paid, they should have known that was coming from the gate! There exists places in the real world where art is displayed for little to no cost to the viewer! Not to mention most any porn in the world is free these days! Try porn.com, g-e-hentai, rule 34, pornhub, redtube, ALL FREE!!! Pay-to-View porn is DEAD! With all of this in mind, is morality REALLY our top priority?
Honestly, I wouldn't mind paying a few dollars a month for better quality jerking, but it should have been solved LONG before I joined this site 4 years ago! Am I alone here? I'm an artist and my art has been used without my permission! But I don't gripe! The whole point of art is expression, not capitalism! If you're not okay with your porn being stolen, then make Coca-Cola ads! You'll get payed BIG for that, not to mention up front! Just keep your hands off my kemonomimi and let me wack it in peace!
Sorry, but I'm not sorry about this rant! I can't believe this is a FUCKING issue! Am I even reading this right? Are we witnessing a porn site trying to become an upstanding member of an industry? Are you FUCKING kidding me? This is like a criminal having limits! No, that IS what this is! You'be been hosting theft and piracy for years and suddenly you're like ", Oh, we're sorry!" Do you not make money off the ads? The annoying, intrusive, boner killing ads that appear whenever I try to jerk off? Just slide the whiners some of that! I've attended this site for 4 years and you suddenly stab me in the back because some fine arts jack ass thinks his work is worth paying for! News flash, pals: this ain't girl scout cookie sales! It's smut and it always will be! Just let smut be as dirty and immoral as it's always been!
You want to be morally upright? Then get rid of ALL the porn! Turn into a charity! Sell game art books! But don't you DARE call yourself a porn site if morals become a priority! AMAZON SELLS PORN, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, AND IT'S NOT A PORN SITE!!!
Finally, if this Is supposed to be constructive, then provide a counter argument with your "-1." I don't mind being told that I'm wrong or that you disagree with me! This Is just seriously bothering me! Argue! There is no reason to be shy! I really want to hear what the community thinks, here! I'm angry and I'm not alone! Tell me why I SHOULDN'T be angry!
On the other hand, if the issue is the artist not getting paid, they should have known that was coming from the gate! There exists places in the real world where art is displayed for little to no cost to the viewer! Not to mention most any porn in the world is free these days! Try porn.com, g-e-hentai, rule 34, pornhub, redtube, ALL FREE!!! Pay-to-View porn is DEAD! With all of this in mind, is morality REALLY our top priority?
Honestly, I wouldn't mind paying a few dollars a month for better quality jerking, but it should have been solved LONG before I joined this site 4 years ago! Am I alone here? I'm an artist and my art has been used without my permission! But I don't gripe! The whole point of art is expression, not capitalism! If you're not okay with your porn being stolen, then make Coca-Cola ads! You'll get payed BIG for that, not to mention up front! Just keep your hands off my kemonomimi and let me wack it in peace!
Sorry, but I'm not sorry about this rant! I can't believe this is a FUCKING issue! Am I even reading this right? Are we witnessing a porn site trying to become an upstanding member of an industry? Are you FUCKING kidding me? This is like a criminal having limits! No, that IS what this is! You'be been hosting theft and piracy for years and suddenly you're like ", Oh, we're sorry!" Do you not make money off the ads? The annoying, intrusive, boner killing ads that appear whenever I try to jerk off? Just slide the whiners some of that! I've attended this site for 4 years and you suddenly stab me in the back because some fine arts jack ass thinks his work is worth paying for! News flash, pals: this ain't girl scout cookie sales! It's smut and it always will be! Just let smut be as dirty and immoral as it's always been!
You want to be morally upright? Then get rid of ALL the porn! Turn into a charity! Sell game art books! But don't you DARE call yourself a porn site if morals become a priority! AMAZON SELLS PORN, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, AND IT'S NOT A PORN SITE!!!
Finally, if this Is supposed to be constructive, then provide a counter argument with your "-1." I don't mind being told that I'm wrong or that you disagree with me! This Is just seriously bothering me! Argue! There is no reason to be shy! I really want to hear what the community thinks, here! I'm angry and I'm not alone! Tell me why I SHOULDN'T be angry!
