[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal

I completely understand why that has upset many people, thank you for clearing that up.

No offense, but you're the one confused here.

Doujin simply means self published. If you want to be more precise, doujinshi is the term that refers to manga and similar works, but doujin is not limited to that media. A simple comparison would be indie games in the west and Japanese doujin games, like the Touhou Project series. Granted the term "indie" has pretty much come to mean "not AAA" rather than "independent/self published" on the current gaming scene, but if you take the original meaning, it's pretty much interchangeable with doujin.

The term doujin has absolutely nothing to do with licensing or whether or not it's a parody.

As for the original question:

In short, it's when you don't have the permission of the property owner to user their work. For every book we publish, we have the permission of the artist to do so, and they're properly compensated. The same goes for the upcoming magazines, and eventually, all content you'll be able to find on FAKKU.

Now that it's July, can we get an update on the removal schedule?

It just says July, so I would assume the changes will come sometime before the end of the month.


FAKKU will be removing all of it from this site. We haven't tried to stop scanlation groups from doing their thing in the past, nor will we after these changes either. I will probably continue with what little time I can set aside for it.

Welp, Fakku's dead. See ya'll on Pururin or some other site until this whole direction we're moving in ends in "cease and desist notices" to sites like Pururin. I hope whatever business plan you had in place accounted for the mass exodus that will/is occur/occurring.

Yes.

Just because they aren't talked about on Fakku doesn't mean they don't make more artists known in other sites. All this whole things with hentai going legit isn't just thanks to Fakku or the scanlators/translators alone (of course they deserve our thanks, it's obvious), there are many things involved during these last years that made hentai more known to the non-Japanese audience, and lurkers have also played an important role here.
I'm not defending that user alone, but we can't go neither telling him "go out we don't need you". We were like him in the beggining as well. Not everyone can afford to pay the prices of the Fakku Books, but they can still recommend works to people who in a future could be interested and buy them, that's how this whole thing has been building up, scanlators, translators, people who read those works for free, people who have money and buy things to help the industry, agregator sites, etc, all of them have made this thing possible.
I'm not trying to make excuses or anything.

At no point did I say anything like this. I recall saying Kinkykitten's absence would be neither missed nor regretted. How can you miss or regret someone you never knew existed until the same day they popped up and said, "I'm leaving." It was you that turned this one-post wonder into an advocate for lurker's rights.

If he had been even remotely active on this site, instead of joining just to say he was leaving, I would have accepted his right to choose another website without any response. If he had chosen to stay, and continue to fight for the Fakku he once believed in, I would have respected his right to take a stand for his beliefs, also without commentary from me.

As for the issue of the importance of lurkers, I have nothing else to add to this discussion. So feel free to continue neg. repping me if it makes you happy.(Personally I couldn't care less) This horse has been dead for two weeks, and I think it's time you stopped beating it.

I'll pop in once in a while and see what Fakku may have to offer in uncensored digital Manga (the only thing that sounds great). If I like it I'll buy it, but I need to see at least a chapter or two of what I want to buy. I really don't like subscription sites. Only subscription services I pay for are my anti virus, and 2 online game services (one at $5 a year and the other $16 a month because its an MMORPG that I get a lot more entertainment value out of... for nearly 10 years).

Over the past 3 years everybody who is anybody has been trying to bleed people dry by making everything they can "subscription only". Sorry but my utilities, rent, health insurance, and taxes are the only "subscriptions" I'm willing to put up with. Too many leeches can kill a single person, and I really really don't like having my wallet bled to death.

Plus Fakku has to bring back the tags I know and love. Monster girls, mature+shota, and incest... with out those I'll be scarce around here and getting it elsewhere.

By the way been on this site for 5 years. Was great and now sounding like it's getting very messy very fast.

I guess today is the day I stop being a lurker. I've had enough of everyone complaining about doujinshi being removed.
I think a lot of you don't understand that regardless of whether or not a doujin is based on preexisting IP, an artist or a group of artists had to put their blood, sweat, and tears into the doujinshi with the intent of both expressing their love for the series and getting paid. If you didn't know, most doujinshi are sold at conventions and expos for a profit, however small. Morally, it's a bit shitty to put these works on a for-profit website without compensating the artist who actually made the god damn comics.
As for legally, it's a hella grey area but in Japan publishers and doujin artists have had a strange symbiotic relationship where creators will "tease" at certain "events" and doujin artists come in to fill out the "details". In America many erotic artists have gotten away by calling their work "parodies" and that is the space Fakku is in.
Regardless, in US law, regardless of whether a work is infringing on other IP, the artist of the doujin retains the rights to their work. You can't possibly call the unauthorized distribution of a doujin "parody" so in this case Fakku must at least gain the license from the doujin artist in order to sell it.
I hope this clears up why doujinshi will also be removed. If you complain after this, please fuck off.

If that's how you see it, then I have no problems, it wasn't my intention to "defend his rights" or anything, but whatever.

Mmkay.

The way I see it, no one requires you to have just one doujinshi site. For example, I use Pururin for doujinshi that Fakku doesn't have, but I prefer having an uncensored English language release that pays the original artists for their work. You don't have to have exclusive loyalty to just one site. The only thing I'm entitled to is whatever I payed for. The only thing Fakku is required to do is get content that paying users ponied up for. If I can't find what I want on Fakku, I'll use Pururin while I wait until Fakku does get it (e.g. Ootsuka Reika, Noise, etc. as they aren't published by Wani, so I'll just hold tight.).

Just my thoughts on this whole situation.

Amen. It's not as if hentai sites are like cable providers or cell phone companies. You can use as many as you want. I come to Fakku for the forums mostly and to occasionally browse, and use ExHentai for most other things since they have a greater selection. When Fakku releases the new simulcast magazines and whatever else, I'll sign up because they'll be uncensored and I love uncensored h-manga whenever I find it. And I'm sure I'll keep using Ex as well.

Unlicensed removeal.

It's mean we need to pay to view anything in this website?