Apology

No it isnt baby we can make this work~(>.<)

Goodluck on your sugury!

Now I need to rest as well. Headache

To answer shotty's request: What do you think you've done wrong koko? What actions led you to being banned and

I'm not going to argue her to death or you, Waar. I just make sure we give her another chance…again that she won't have another meltdown.

All our time is valuable and I don't want to waste too much of it.

With your nose up high you basically said, "All our time is valuable but not koko's."

Waar's just helping by breaking down your long paragraph for me which I "DEEPLY" appreciate.

"Her" That refers to you Koko and I also said "Our" refered to you too.

I'm just expressing my concerns. That's all. You can interpret my words however you like.

I dont need to when you said it referred to me too. I'll read it and answer it later. After getting in all sides all day I deserve a break.

That's fair enough. I'm definitely content with that. Answer me at your own pace.

What happened?

Also, is this like the case with Zack, or...?

Eh, she could apologize, but I doubt it'll be sincere, and I'm damn sure she'll really actually learn anything from her past and try to be better.

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I completely agree, seeing as this is coming back after your 9001st breakdown.

But, whatever, if Jacob's letting you back, obviously then you'll be allowed.

Just don't expect a ton of people to be happy and cheerful.

That would be expecting too much... respect isn't earned overnight

(not that I've earned any yet I'm still a newfag in my forum activity)

[by account creation date, I meant. been lurking for years and seen the downfall of zak, catgirl, solid, ekuson, you, and many others. Hopefully you'll end up similar to #2 and start acting more mature and intelligent, although that's not to say you won't still get flak. Also there was that time period where Illumina was being retarded.]

I demand an apology.

Yes... this is so fitting lol



Were you the one that she had a heated debate (read:she gave a metric ton of shit to) on skype and fb for several weeks, and freaked out on you?

Or am I mistaking you for someone else?

If so my bad... I can never remember who is who (real names, not users) on the skype chat...

What's ironic is that I also forgot my skype username...

I should've written it down since it was really, really long.

I can't remember if you're Namar, or if that's shotty or sneaky, since I haven't been able to get on my skype (timetomakeanewone.flv)

I remember that one of you is namar, one is greg, and another one I don't know their real name (Or I do and don't remember, could be either).

I think she should be let back, easiest way to see if she has changed is by letting her back in.

If she does something ban worthy after being let back you just perm ban her.

What? Like the other 20 times she's been let back? There is only so many chances we can give.
She was let back, she was found to have not changed, and her apologies were all bullshit. She did the same thing, and got banned. This happened a total of about 8 or 9 times by my count.
Are we really even considering this a legitimate reason to let her back?



This entirely.
Although, I'd like to expand on it;

From what she has posted (her 'apology') It seems she has no feeling, no actual regret, and has not come to the realisation of why she was banned, or what she has done wrong.
She has admitted she has done some wrong, but will not expand on that, and will not admit that she has done wrong explicitly. She will keep making apologies that say 'I MAY have done something wrong, and for that I'm sorry' not, 'I HAVE done something wrong, I abused people, I attacked people, I broke the rules in multiple ways, by creating alts, etc etc'
From where I'm sitting, she lacks sincerity in her apology, and is just bullshitting her way through an apology, like the last fifty times.


If she wants my approval, she needs to make a sincere apology, put meaning, put thought, and actually prove she's realised her mistakes, and has learned from them.
After that happens (which I doubt), I propose an undefined probation time (preferably indefinite again) and if she fucks up (again) Ban her again, and keep her the fuck off the forums.

I'm being serious here, if she can break all the fucking rules, and come back as 50 alts, fuck shit up, abuse people, personally attack people, and be a general cunt (breaking more rules) Then, come back scott free.. Why the fuck do we have rules? Why the fuck are there even mods? If she is allowed to have such privilege, why is yoshi not back? Why is mantis not allowed back? What she has done is by far worse than what the others have done collectively.
Honestly, either be consistent with the rules, and how you enforce them, and ban her, and tell her to fucking grow up. Or, let her back, and let mantis and the others back.

Again, this is about her 50th time being considered a chance. The past times have all ended up in her breaking her promise and getting banned. She gave an 'apology' and swore she would be good. That lasted about a good few weeks before she got banned again. Every time.
Every time you (waar) even considers telling her to re-word her bullshit apologies, or banning her for breaking the rules (yet again), she comes back with 20 more alts, calls you a cunt, tells you to kill yourself, calls jacob a cunt, tries her best to break the server (although she seems to lack the know how on how that actually works) and pretty much throws her chance in the toilet. Last time this happened, that happened whilst we were discussing bringing her back. Then she somehow came back under the impression she was allowed back, before being banned again. Now this.
Seriously dude, you need to just man up and get rid of her. She is cancer.
Every time she does this, she gives you an insincere apology, filled with bullshit about how she's 'changed' and then goes and does exactly what she was banned for.
She is literally a child. Nothing is going to get to her, and get her to change, especially if this shit keeps happening. How can you possibly learn a lesson if you keep getting treats when you're meant to be punished?

re-evaluate, sleep on it, then get back to me.

edit; Apologies, got a bit heavy fingered in there, but, point still stands. You've been far too forgiving to her
Also; notice how as soon as you posted 'You have shown no guilt, nor remorse' and suddenly a thread comes up about guilt and remorse? Yet, it still doesn't contain sincerity and/ or specifically admit to guilt, just says that things 'may' have happened. And when questioned on it, she just says 'for things that HAVE happened' doesn't say the whole thing over, and put meaning into it, it's all just another false front to try and sweet talk you into coming back onto the forums.... again.

And on that day, Fakku received a grim reminder.

[size=10]This shit again...[/h]

Nope. I just demand and apology.

Yes, exactly like the other times. And you don't need to tell me what has happened, I know very well.

Why do I think this? Why not, if we're gonna keep bringing up if she's worthy to come back she might as well be let back, again. Otherwise we should just stop even discussing if she has the right to come back.

And for good or bad, she's fun to have around.

>thread about Koko
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