Ancient Aliens
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Gotta love Mythbusters. I'm buying tickets to go see them during their tour xD
As mythbusters, I wonder what they have to say about all the weird myths like Ancient Aliens though.
As mythbusters, I wonder what they have to say about all the weird myths like Ancient Aliens though.
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Mythbusters?! they're almost as bad as that alien shit. they frequently alter the myths and experiments to make more sensational TV.
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i for one love Ancient Aliens. i do Believe there is another form of life out there.
i love the show because, there is no way people can move a 2.5 ton stone up a ramp with out any technology. so some form of life had to come down and help a bit.
i love the show because, there is no way people can move a 2.5 ton stone up a ramp with out any technology. so some form of life had to come down and help a bit.
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Just wondering, did this show come out after the release of Assassins Creed? Cause that all sounded like a slight twist on their mindfuck storyline.
Translation: It was full of BS.
Translation: It was full of BS.
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kitty93 wrote...
i like this show, really gets you to think.but i lol'd at this xD
Spoiler:
I laughed way to hard at that Philosoraptor one.
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Azuran wrote...
kitty93 wrote...
i like this show, really gets you to think.but i lol'd at this xD
Spoiler:
I laughed way to hard at that Philosoraptor one.
What really made me laugh, is the guy.. i imagine him sayng.. "dat fucking black alien's ass" xD
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Honestly, most of the stuff the point out i belive in, always have. but, no offence intended. there are far to many reasons to turn a blind eye to it and "de-bunk" it, not saying your wrong, not saying your right.
If you look back, even the show itself is designed to make people more skeptic then believer. sure it sounds serious and the guy sounds as dedicated as possible, but they do there damn best to make him look batshit crazy do they not?
on a side note, belive it or not [I know you wont] as of last week I know for a fact that we DID infact recover a craft all those years ago in new Mexico. dont expect ya to belive me or trust my source, dont really care. its still a freighting concept if you ask me.
If you look back, even the show itself is designed to make people more skeptic then believer. sure it sounds serious and the guy sounds as dedicated as possible, but they do there damn best to make him look batshit crazy do they not?
on a side note, belive it or not [I know you wont] as of last week I know for a fact that we DID infact recover a craft all those years ago in new Mexico. dont expect ya to belive me or trust my source, dont really care. its still a freighting concept if you ask me.
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Honestly, IF aliens were the origin of religion, I'd be kinda disappointed. I was wishing for the whole Buddhist-reincarnation thing, cuz' "heaven" sounds soooo boring!
Life on earth seems to have more meaning than some other world where we're simply "rewarded" by a bureaucracy based on our actions.
Life on earth seems to have more meaning than some other world where we're simply "rewarded" by a bureaucracy based on our actions.
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Lishy1 wrote...
Honestly, IF aliens were the origin of religion, I'd be kinda disappointed. I was wishing for the whole Buddhist-reincarnation thing, cuz' "heaven" sounds soooo boring!Life on earth seems to have more meaning than some other world where we're simply "rewarded" by a bureaucracy based on our actions.
That's when the show was good then they started to talk about how aliens made chimeras and spread viruses and it got stupid.
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It's interesting that most of you think that this theory is fake from top to bottom. If you have read a little bit about ancient history, tribes etc, you'd know that there are pretty disturbing events described in EVERY religious book, Sanscrit or whatever.
The examples are hundrets: 200 tons blocks with which some of the Mayan and Shumerian pyramids and structures have been built; drawings of astronauts found in caves (yes, you can't speculate it's something else...it's a freakin astronaut); also drawings of space ships; then the texts - writings about people taken in space crafts or flame carriages, as ancient people used to call them, and then taken away somewhere to explore the outer space. You'd say these are all myths but haven't all myths been bases on real events? The city of Troy was merely a myth to science until it was found. Also the knowledge these people had surpassed some of the knowledge we discovered not until recently. Egyptians knew the vaxine, mayans knew precisely how many days the Earth needs to go round the Sun, or even for the whole Milky Way to turn around it's center. Most of the people say that those people had the knowledge and that's perfectly fine...they found it for themselves and it wasn't big of a deal. I'd strongly argue with that. Most of their knowledge was discovered until recently, they even knew the Earth has rounded shape, and our culture used to burn people for witchcraft if they say something like that.
I am not saying there were ancient aliens 100%, I am just stating some facts that cannot be overlooked.
The examples are hundrets: 200 tons blocks with which some of the Mayan and Shumerian pyramids and structures have been built; drawings of astronauts found in caves (yes, you can't speculate it's something else...it's a freakin astronaut); also drawings of space ships; then the texts - writings about people taken in space crafts or flame carriages, as ancient people used to call them, and then taken away somewhere to explore the outer space. You'd say these are all myths but haven't all myths been bases on real events? The city of Troy was merely a myth to science until it was found. Also the knowledge these people had surpassed some of the knowledge we discovered not until recently. Egyptians knew the vaxine, mayans knew precisely how many days the Earth needs to go round the Sun, or even for the whole Milky Way to turn around it's center. Most of the people say that those people had the knowledge and that's perfectly fine...they found it for themselves and it wasn't big of a deal. I'd strongly argue with that. Most of their knowledge was discovered until recently, they even knew the Earth has rounded shape, and our culture used to burn people for witchcraft if they say something like that.
I am not saying there were ancient aliens 100%, I am just stating some facts that cannot be overlooked.
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zunar wrote...
It's interesting that most of you think that this theory is fake from top to bottom. If you have read a little bit about ancient history, tribes etc, you'd know that there are pretty disturbing events described in EVERY religious book, Sanscrit or whatever. The examples are hundrets: 200 tons blocks with which some of the Mayan and Shumerian pyramids and structures have been built; drawings of astronauts found in caves (yes, you can't speculate it's something else...it's a freakin astronaut); also drawings of space ships; then the texts - writings about people taken in space crafts or flame carriages, as ancient people used to call them, and then taken away somewhere to explore the outer space. You'd say these are all myths but haven't all myths been bases on real events? The city of Troy was merely a myth to science until it was found. Also the knowledge these people had surpassed some of the knowledge we discovered not until recently. Egyptians knew the vaxine, mayans knew precisely how many days the Earth needs to go round the Sun, or even for the whole Milky Way to turn around it's center. Most of the people say that those people had the knowledge and that's perfectly fine...they found it for themselves and it wasn't big of a deal. I'd strongly argue with that. Most of their knowledge was discovered until recently, they even knew the Earth has rounded shape, and our culture used to burn people for witchcraft if they say something like that.
I am not saying there were ancient aliens 100%, I am just stating some facts that cannot be overlooked.
Meh you call those facts, here's a simple line-by-line
Blocks-results obtainable by simple friction-pull mechanisms and a multi-step force booster process which is extremely possible considering the amount of manpower they had,also200 tonnes is an extreme exaggeration, that's like saying they carried a block that weighs about 160 cars.
Drawings-extremely vague and ambiguous, how are they astronauts? They are simply representations through primitive means of likable characteristics and communication
Texts-meh first of all, most texts are portrayal of issues within a culture or uses as a relief of sorts,and there is literally no text that says anything close to being taken In a fiery carriage or space craft. Besides, even if people did write something that outrageous, they also believed the sun was toted around by Helios and his chariot as he went across the sky to look at his kine.
Myths-no they are not based on real events, on real characters and very much in real locales or settings we can ascribe to but not on real events.I think your getting confused by stories influenced by mythical religion and myths themselves
Troy-still very much a myth, or atleast a fictional theory with some fact, it has no physical standing in world except for 32 different supposed ruin sites
Knowledge-what exactly do you mean?We discovered it the same time they did as they passed it on, it's simply because of lack of communication and modern education this disparity of knowledge occurred, if you didn't notice, all of the mideval sciences came from Greek and middle eastern sources in which they originated, no impact to this argument
Egyptians-meh of course, after awhile medicine doctors, shamans, and any other medical practioner finds a vaccine or cure to a problem after it poses a threat, it's simple human ingenuity,and they didn't discover a vaccine for anything actually, perhaps their neighbors but not them, I would accredit them with astronomy.Also, these where the people who believed knowledge and thought came from the heart and that food and poisons were purified in the brain, other than for simple remidies, these guys have no medical accredibility
Mayans-The western/eastern world also learnt of the world being round much earlier and at the same time concurrently.Ptolemy and Galileo.Once a person has a set calculation and form to rationalize something, it's pretty simple.The Mayans had thousands of observers who would spend years simply staring at astral bodies, once again, it's just human ingenuity.
Witchcraft-"What one cannot perceive, is evil" generally the standpoint of the stupid throughout history.Most of this occurred in transition stages of history where various fractions required such things.Without a common enemy or scapegoat, the church, that allowed for transgression into our modern times, could not have fulfilled it's purpose.
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I watched the first few episodes... some of the theories were intriguing. However after a few more episodes they just became more and more radical. I mean I am open to new ideas. I'm not against religion nor am I extreme in my opinions or beliefs when it comes to topics like this.
The idea that ancient man could do such extravagant things when it would be hard to do any of that stuff today, even with our current technology. Sure it is plausible that earth was visited by beings of higher intelligence. I mean seeing as that earth existed a long time its not impossible that at one time some form of highly intelligent beings visited us. However these people seem to be so far gone in their beliefs that they use anything as so-called "evidence" as proof they are right. Then again a lot of groups tend to do that.
Though there are a lot of good points they make however they seem to ignore anything that would possibly go against what they say. Same goes for the nay Sayers... lots of things seem to be like that. Radicals have some views that make sense while the other stuff tends to be idiotic babble.
examples:
1. Why would coming to our planet mean they came specifically for that reason? Maybe they were exploring our galaxy and found our planet by chance.
2. If your a kind old man walking down a road and see a starving child wouldn't you want to help? However just helping might not be enough. "Give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish and you feed him for life."
3. Just because you can do things for someone doesn't mean you are obligated to. Maybe they have rules of their own? Maybe its like a Merchant who passes by a small town and sees a good way to make a profit.
I'm not trying to create evidence that aliens exist. I'm just pointing out possibilities.
The idea that ancient man could do such extravagant things when it would be hard to do any of that stuff today, even with our current technology. Sure it is plausible that earth was visited by beings of higher intelligence. I mean seeing as that earth existed a long time its not impossible that at one time some form of highly intelligent beings visited us. However these people seem to be so far gone in their beliefs that they use anything as so-called "evidence" as proof they are right. Then again a lot of groups tend to do that.
Though there are a lot of good points they make however they seem to ignore anything that would possibly go against what they say. Same goes for the nay Sayers... lots of things seem to be like that. Radicals have some views that make sense while the other stuff tends to be idiotic babble.
examples:
rubberrazors wrote...
why would aliens put so much effort to travel to our dinky planet multiple times just to give us a little tehcno-tap. And by little, I mean extremely small. These are beings that go galaxy to galaxy all the time, apparently. Cutting through marble and "inventing" and reinventing airplanes is probably just a unbelievably small fraction of what they could've done for us. 1. Why would coming to our planet mean they came specifically for that reason? Maybe they were exploring our galaxy and found our planet by chance.
2. If your a kind old man walking down a road and see a starving child wouldn't you want to help? However just helping might not be enough. "Give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish and you feed him for life."
3. Just because you can do things for someone doesn't mean you are obligated to. Maybe they have rules of their own? Maybe its like a Merchant who passes by a small town and sees a good way to make a profit.
I'm not trying to create evidence that aliens exist. I'm just pointing out possibilities.
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What is difficult about archeological events if we need to be able to separate the true events from the tales. 1000 years from now, I fear people might fear the pokemon existed at one point!
That said, I still have to scratch my head why so many cultures across the world can illustrate very disturbingly events at the same time.
How could the Mayans understand our galaxies, yet still kill each other for blood sacrifices? They're like geniuses and idiots at the same time! Something wasn't right!
That said, I still have to scratch my head why so many cultures across the world can illustrate very disturbingly events at the same time.
How could the Mayans understand our galaxies, yet still kill each other for blood sacrifices? They're like geniuses and idiots at the same time! Something wasn't right!
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Lishy1 wrote...
What is difficult about archeological events if we need to be able to separate the true events from the tales. 1000 years from now, I fear people might fear the pokemon existed at one point!This isn't Futurama. Though it may be plausible that all current information wouldn't be comprehensible seeing as how even within a span of 100 years culture changes so much that meaning of things change drastically making it a possibility that even if written documents existed it might mean squat to them... or all information is lost or humanity gets killed
That said, I still have to scratch my head why so many cultures across the world can illustrate very disturbingly events at the same time.
People can give you many theories and such. Like how almost every culture has depictions of dragons all over the world. They say its residual memories from when we were apes or something. Like a dragon is a creature mixed together to form a single being to warn us of real dangers that existed. Like snakes, eagles, fire, and etc.
How could the Mayans understand our galaxies, yet still kill each other for blood sacrifices? They're like geniuses and idiots at the same time! Something wasn't right!
How does having sacrifices make a culture idiots? I mean sure morally in the current age in "modern" society it is seen as disgusting and wrong. However to them such a thing was a normal act. In the future humanity will make a world changing discovery and they will look back at us and pick at something that we see as normal... like maybe using a toothbrush to clean our teeth for example and think of us as stupid.
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Darkhilt wrote...
zunar wrote...
It's interesting that most of you think that this theory is fake from top to bottom. If you have read a little bit about ancient history, tribes etc, you'd know that there are pretty disturbing events described in EVERY religious book, Sanscrit or whatever. The examples are hundrets: 200 tons blocks with which some of the Mayan and Shumerian pyramids and structures have been built; drawings of astronauts found in caves (yes, you can't speculate it's something else...it's a freakin astronaut); also drawings of space ships; then the texts - writings about people taken in space crafts or flame carriages, as ancient people used to call them, and then taken away somewhere to explore the outer space. You'd say these are all myths but haven't all myths been bases on real events? The city of Troy was merely a myth to science until it was found. Also the knowledge these people had surpassed some of the knowledge we discovered not until recently. Egyptians knew the vaxine, mayans knew precisely how many days the Earth needs to go round the Sun, or even for the whole Milky Way to turn around it's center. Most of the people say that those people had the knowledge and that's perfectly fine...they found it for themselves and it wasn't big of a deal. I'd strongly argue with that. Most of their knowledge was discovered until recently, they even knew the Earth has rounded shape, and our culture used to burn people for witchcraft if they say something like that.
I am not saying there were ancient aliens 100%, I am just stating some facts that cannot be overlooked.
Meh you call those facts, here's a simple line-by-line
Blocks-results obtainable by simple friction-pull mechanisms and a multi-step force booster process which is extremely possible considering the amount of manpower they had,also200 tonnes is an extreme exaggeration, that's like saying they carried a block that weighs about 160 cars.
Drawings-extremely vague and ambiguous, how are they astronauts? They are simply representations through primitive means of likable characteristics and communication
Texts-meh first of all, most texts are portrayal of issues within a culture or uses as a relief of sorts,and there is literally no text that says anything close to being taken In a fiery carriage or space craft. Besides, even if people did write something that outrageous, they also believed the sun was toted around by Helios and his chariot as he went across the sky to look at his kine.
Myths-no they are not based on real events, on real characters and very much in real locales or settings we can ascribe to but not on real events.I think your getting confused by stories influenced by mythical religion and myths themselves
Troy-still very much a myth, or atleast a fictional theory with some fact, it has no physical standing in world except for 32 different supposed ruin sites
Knowledge-what exactly do you mean?We discovered it the same time they did as they passed it on, it's simply because of lack of communication and modern education this disparity of knowledge occurred, if you didn't notice, all of the mideval sciences came from Greek and middle eastern sources in which they originated, no impact to this argument
Egyptians-meh of course, after awhile medicine doctors, shamans, and any other medical practioner finds a vaccine or cure to a problem after it poses a threat, it's simple human ingenuity,and they didn't discover a vaccine for anything actually, perhaps their neighbors but not them, I would accredit them with astronomy.Also, these where the people who believed knowledge and thought came from the heart and that food and poisons were purified in the brain, other than for simple remidies, these guys have no medical accredibility
Mayans-The western/eastern world also learnt of the world being round much earlier and at the same time concurrently.Ptolemy and Galileo.Once a person has a set calculation and form to rationalize something, it's pretty simple.The Mayans had thousands of observers who would spend years simply staring at astral bodies, once again, it's just human ingenuity.
Witchcraft-"What one cannot perceive, is evil" generally the standpoint of the stupid throughout history.Most of this occurred in transition stages of history where various fractions required such things.Without a common enemy or scapegoat, the church, that allowed for transgression into our modern times, could not have fulfilled it's purpose.
I have to disagree with some of your ideas the prymid stones do weigh 200 tonnes. They did mathmatical equations on them. I don't care how many people you have your not moving that much with pullies across a desert. Nor can simple wooden rafts carry that much wieght.
Did you even look at the astronaut figurines they can't be mistaken.
Most myths are true stories that are greatly exaggerated.
The location of Troy has been known since the 1800's when a German followed his copy of the Homer's Odyssey straight to the site and he uncovered the ruins there.
Ptyomey never said the world was round, I believe he was one of the people to inspire 1500 years of thinking the world was flat.
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For example based on the story of Islam prophet Mohamed (s.a.s):
Mohamed needed to travel from place to place so the angel Gabriel called upon the "Master of Thunder" ( A beast type deity with a human face and wings of course)..
When the "Master of thunder or Lightning came he asked .. " For what have you called me here on this earth... I have "Traveled" very far just to come here....
This is also a big question... he traveled far.
By traveling meaning does this deity live in our universe?
Really a hard question to answer since it is written he "Traveled".
Since when Gabriel is called "Mastere of Thunder"?
All I know that is Gabriel is the Archangel.
And Muhammad don't call him.Allah is the one who ordered him
to meet Muhammad.And he is an ethereal being lives in another place
that could not be described by science.Thank you.
Mohamed needed to travel from place to place so the angel Gabriel called upon the "Master of Thunder" ( A beast type deity with a human face and wings of course)..
When the "Master of thunder or Lightning came he asked .. " For what have you called me here on this earth... I have "Traveled" very far just to come here....
This is also a big question... he traveled far.
By traveling meaning does this deity live in our universe?
Really a hard question to answer since it is written he "Traveled".
Since when Gabriel is called "Mastere of Thunder"?
All I know that is Gabriel is the Archangel.
And Muhammad don't call him.Allah is the one who ordered him
to meet Muhammad.And he is an ethereal being lives in another place
that could not be described by science.Thank you.
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Mario can't be described by Science either.
Magic doesn't exist. We know that.
There for, anything religious must have had a scientific explanation. The theories could only be ruthless dictators repressing the people in a similar fashion to North Korea (That theory is quite believable mind you), or alien contact.
IF Muhammad and the rest existed, then they are not humans, or affiliated with the "one" god of the universe. We know that because this is a world of material, and there is no magic of god which can be seen anywhere.
Magic doesn't exist. We know that.
There for, anything religious must have had a scientific explanation. The theories could only be ruthless dictators repressing the people in a similar fashion to North Korea (That theory is quite believable mind you), or alien contact.
IF Muhammad and the rest existed, then they are not humans, or affiliated with the "one" god of the universe. We know that because this is a world of material, and there is no magic of god which can be seen anywhere.
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Lishy1 wrote...
Mario can't be described by Science either.Magic doesn't exist. We know that.
There for, anything religious must have had a scientific explanation. The theories could only be ruthless dictators repressing the people in a similar fashion to North Korea (That theory is quite believable mind you), or alien contact.
IF Muhammad and the rest existed, then they are not humans, or affiliated with the "one" god of the universe. We know that because this is a world of material, and there is no magic of god which can be seen anywhere.
My friend,
it seems you never witnessed magic in your life.
I do.
The name of God is on the nest of ants.
Do you believe that possibly, science could carve or shape the nest of ants?
Or create a new species of flower that never existed before this?
A species which is not a hybrid but...man-made..
Do you believe there are man-made creatures in this world?
I believe not.
Our knowledge is limited.
There are things we cannot explain with mortal knowledge.
That's why we never know what God fated for us.
May God guide you in life.