I actually decided to stay out of SD, because it's pointless to have a debate with people who take themselves too serious, but utterly fail to read someone else's post thoroughly and then make completely irrelevant and partially even senseless responses that completely miss the point of the original post.
BUT, I felt like jumping in here for once.
Kensouke wrote...
This paragraph I've quoted alone makes nearly everything you said pointless, as it is simply...horrid.
What I would call "horrid" is your lack of understanding what a gender role actually is, Kensouke. You wrote:
... the notion that any gender role can be completely replaced and become obsolete or whatever is just pointless immature garbage that those of lesser intelligence spew out when they're in a bad mood and feel like taking a spin at being philosophical or whatever.
A gender
role is not a
gender.
A gender role is a stereotypical set of attitudes and actions associated with one sex. For example: Most men are more successful in the corporate world.
This doesn't mean that it will stay like that. This concrete aspect of a gender specific role could change (and is changing in fact).
So Wordmangler never wrote that MEN will become obsolete. He wrote that many of the gender ROLES we associate with men will become obsolete, change or disappear.
Which makes you whole post about how men could never be replaced problematic, because noone wrote that. You are arguing against a non existing argument. So THAT debate was completely in your head and your head only - which makes me actually wonder how secure you are in your own non-obsolescence.
Kensouke wrote...
Not all men are larger than all women. Men gain more muscle mass, yes, but not all men are more muscular than all women.
Yeah, and there are fat people and thin people. That doesn't change the fact that men not only can gain MORE muscle mass, they gain muscle mass also easier. Such studies compare people who are working on gaining muscle mass and not people who train and people who sit at home on their fat asses and watch TV.
Kensouke wrote...
Women outlive men by, what, a few years of painful old age? This takes into consideration all of the dangerous tasks that tend to be male-oriented.
Not only that this has nothing to do with gaining muscle mass, so I don't quite get why it's in the same paragraph, this part can be dismantled on so many levels, that it makes someone wonder why you even bothered typing it out.
Since you are so fond of going on about modern western society, let's look into this from that aspect:
1. Painful old age isn't as painful as it used to be thanks to modern health care and higher living standard.
2. There is an overwhelming majority of men working in such jobs. But if you compare a female to a male worker, the dangers are the same for both sexes. So it is not a danger that threatens male-only.
3. Have you ever read about the dangers and risks on pregnancy and childbirth, even in modern societies?
Kensouke wrote...
Women aren't as aggressive as men? Incorrect.
Of course, if you compare an aggressive woman to an aggressive man. But if you compare the statistics on crime-rates, then there is a clear trend that violent crimes are committed by far more men than women.
Kensouke wrote...
In a society where all men are basically told never to lay their hands on a woman, this of course tends to make women more violent.
Just because someone is told not to do something, doesn't mean he won't do it. Modern society doesn't have a no-violence-toward-women only attitude, but a general no-violence attitude. Violence is frowned upon in general. It's more frowned upon when it is directed at someone who is weaker. That can be a helpless male victim, that can be a helpless female victim. Or a child.
And for christer sake, how can be "men are told never to lay their hands on a woman" the SINGLE cause to female violence? How can it even contribute to female violence? How is it related to female violence?
Kensouke wrote...
Menstrual cycles alone could obliterate that notion.
Here we go, a wanna-be-expert on the female body functions. Did you actually read what kind of emotional responses fluctuations in estrogen cause? Are you really sure it's "agression" and "violence"? (Btw you should read up on the definition and differences of being "agressive", being "violent" compared to being "nervous", "anxious", "irritated", "depressed" - because there are significant and officially defined differences.)
Kensouke wrote...
In fact, I've noted female-female bonds to be much more fickle than male-male bonds, where the female-female bond breaks over something trivial, while the males just patch things up.
And your narrow and subjective glimpse at people's lives around you, makes you obviously an expert on those things and therefore you can ignore all the official study crap and state that whatever you say is nothing but the absolute and objective truth. Right?
Kensouke wrote...
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned? Probably because they've been portrayed to never forgive and never forget. Yet, they're less aggressive, yeah? Despite the girls that walk around saying they'll kick any guy in the balls like that's such an amazing feat, I suppose they're probably very peaceful, yeah? A guy calls them a bitch and then they slam his face into a locker makes them angels, surely.
Do I really have to repeat myself on the difference between "someone saying something" and "someone actually doing something"?
Show me the numbers on how many women walk around kicking guys in the balls or even better
slamming men's faces into lockers, we'll compare it with the figures on GUYS kicking guys in the balls and slamming each other's faces into lockers, breaking each other's noses, beating each other senseless, getting into violent, agressive fights, killing each other and oh, yeah ... rape. How many women actually walk around raping men? I wonder ...
Kensouke wrote...
Considering your thesis statement was complete poppycock, there's really no need to comment on the rest of it.
I'll comment this with your own argument:
Kensouke wrote...
This paragraph I've quoted alone makes nearly everything you said pointless, as it is simply...horrid.