Kalistean wrote...
Hahahaha, you people sure are funny.
You can't have a lack of belief and then have an opinion on something kid.
The fact that you are defining yourself by something, mean you have an opinion on something and are making a stand on the situation.
That means you have a belief in something. So no, it's impossible to have a lack of beliefs. So yeah, Atheism isn't, and never will be a lack of beliefs.
The second point. And I've said this before. Religion does not necessarily include a deity. This is a VERY common misconception people have. Yes, a lot of religions do in fact have a deity in them, but that isn't one of the defining features of religion.
Atheism is not about not believing in anything. Atheism is the belief there is no deities. That's what it is. There's no not believing in anything crap in it.
Oh, and Materialism isn't the lack of belief either. Materialism is the belief that everything is matter, physical whatever you want to refer to the last part. That means they don't believe in spiritual stuff.
If you don't have beliefs in anything, it literally means you do not care about anything. As in you don't have opinions or ideals about anything.
And Droomy. Would you like more hypocrisy in your statement? Considering all you've ever linked for your argument is just the definition of Atheism. Though, I don't need much more than what is already linked anyways. I suppose I could link you the definition of religion for you but I figured you could, you know, look that up pretty easily..
And Neostriker, did you really just bring that back over here? Seriously man, you need to learn from your mistakes.
And yes, Atheism does deal with beliefs. It's not something you're separating from it. Seriously, you need to learn what beliefs and such actually mean.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief here you go. Now read and learn about a word before you start making accusations about it.
Yes, Atheism isn’t a lack of beliefs, nor is it a system of beliefs. Atheism is the lack of belief in a higher deity. So you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist at the same time. No one can really keep lacking beliefs unless you’re a newborn baby. But Atheism is not a system of beliefs either.
Religion is the belief in a higher deity of some sort that controls the destiny of humankind.
Imagine a man who has been raised his entire life without religion. He lacks a belief in a higher deity that controls the destiny of humankind. He is an atheist. Sure, he has an idea of a magic wizard in the sky that controls humans, but he does not believe or disbelieve it. He does not openly say God is real, nor does he say that God isn’t real. He has merely been existing in a world where God isn’t prominent to him. If anyone can explain this better, I’d appreciate it.
I always thought Materialism was being focused on the natural world, but, I’m not here to argue that. Just my opinion.
Yep. That’d be a nihilist. Lack of belief in anything. Nihilists are usually depressed and suicidal. They simply don’t see a point to anything.
And you need to learn how to see things from another perspective. You’re fed up with me? You can’t deal with me anymore? I’m insufferable, hopeless, intolerable? Guess what? That’s how I see you. But I’m not going to quit. I’m not going to stop until you see things at least partially my way.
Atheism is neither a system of beliefs nor a lack of beliefs. Neither of those define it. You can be an Atheist and a Taoist, Buddhist, and/or Confucianist, or any other philosophy.
So, what my definition of Atheism would mean is that all Theists are the ones who came about and started making claims. They are the ones who have to come up with the evidence, and even when they do, we can still use logic to disprove them. So we’re not saying “God isn’t real”, we’re merely refuting your claims. I’m sorry if I didn’t explain any of this clear enough. Also, if you don’t refute/address even one of my points, I will take that as a concession to me being right.