Which is better, believing in a god or not?
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dalester23 wrote...
Everyone hast to believe in something, be it god or a piece of wood.I dont believe in religion. You could argue that I believe in the belief of believing that religion in every sense is a waste of time. That is I believe religion is something man-made so he/she could put his/her conscious at peace. Because its kind of depressing to be living in (whatever year)BC and be aware that everything bad that happens to you is a product of life sucking and at the end of your life you die and everything you worked for on Earth becomes trash and for most people no one is going to give a shit about your life in 1000 years. I think religion was made so that "man" could at least make "himself" happy in this situation.
Now for the OP. I dont really know if I believe in a "God" or not. I do believe in what I said above though. Whether there is a septuagenarian man waiting for me when I die that knows exactly how many times I fap in any 72 hour period or not doesnt influence my daily life...and whether I choose to fap or not.
I can say that I dont believe in the omnipotent man from the "Big 3" religions and from what I've read of other religions, I dont believe in that either.
My parents are Christian and will only entertain Christian religious conversations. I would tell you to do whatever you like. Lightning wont strike you if you stand outside and say "Fuck God". (Dont be stupid enough to do this standing near a tall metallic pole)
Oh just to clear up something that someone may point out. Believing in God and believing in religion are independent for me. I can believe in one and not the other and certainly I think anyone can do the same.
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this is serious matter!
GOD is exist. he created this world, he created all this nature, he created human and all creature that in this world, some creature u can touch it feel it and some creature cant.
the fish in the ocean we eat them every single day in our life, people catch it million of fish everyday but they still there in the ocean where it came form? who feed them?
day that passing by, our body that grow bigger, your eyes that you used to!, who teach you to use them, to eat with a mouth, to hear from ear, the language that you speak! who make it from the very first time, when this intelligent begin. who started it.
why we called day is a day?
there is many question dint have a answer.because only the one who created it will know.
what is your purpose of life? to learn? to eat? to die? (everybody dies) why you life if you someday die. something that you collect in this world dint give any good to you after you die.
you said it before you want to become 'non-believer'.
i want, you just try put your-self together. and start thinking and praying.
ask 'GOD' to give you the 'truth'.
there is only 'ONE GOD'. when you find that, that will solve all the answer.
i will pray for you to. i really hope you found it.
start thinking searching you will found it. because GOD is watching and testing you.
GOD is exist. he created this world, he created all this nature, he created human and all creature that in this world, some creature u can touch it feel it and some creature cant.
the fish in the ocean we eat them every single day in our life, people catch it million of fish everyday but they still there in the ocean where it came form? who feed them?
day that passing by, our body that grow bigger, your eyes that you used to!, who teach you to use them, to eat with a mouth, to hear from ear, the language that you speak! who make it from the very first time, when this intelligent begin. who started it.
why we called day is a day?
there is many question dint have a answer.because only the one who created it will know.
what is your purpose of life? to learn? to eat? to die? (everybody dies) why you life if you someday die. something that you collect in this world dint give any good to you after you die.
you said it before you want to become 'non-believer'.
i want, you just try put your-self together. and start thinking and praying.
ask 'GOD' to give you the 'truth'.
there is only 'ONE GOD'. when you find that, that will solve all the answer.
i will pray for you to. i really hope you found it.
start thinking searching you will found it. because GOD is watching and testing you.
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I'm an atheist, and I know a lot about what you're going through. There is a channel that I've found to very useful for me in choosing whether or not to believe in god, while also remaining unbiased. Here's the URL: http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3?blend=6&ob=5 Whether you choose to believe or not, just remember that asking questions and doubting things you are told are always things you should constantly be doing. Live long and prosper!
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satoshi_hotaru wrote...
this is serious matter! GOD is exist. he created this world, he created all this nature, he created human and all creature that in this world, some creature u can touch it feel it and some creature cant.
the fish in the ocean we eat them every single day in our life, people catch it million of fish everyday but they still there in the ocean where it came form? who feed them?
day that passing by, our body that grow bigger, your eyes that you used to!, who teach you to use them, to eat with a mouth, to hear from ear, the language that you speak! who make it from the very first time, when this intelligent begin. who started it.
why we called day is a day?
there is many question dint have a answer.because only the one who created it will know.
what is your purpose of life? to learn? to eat? to die? (everybody dies) why you life if you someday die. something that you collect in this world dint give any good to you after you die.
you said it before you want to become 'non-believer'.
i want, you just try put your-self together. and start thinking and praying.
ask 'GOD' to give you the 'truth'.
there is only 'ONE GOD'. when you find that, that will solve all the answer.
i will pray for you to. i really hope you found it.
start thinking searching you will found it. because GOD is watching and testing you.
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Tinymatters wrote...
satoshi_hotaru wrote...
this is serious matter! GOD is exist. he created this world, he created all this nature, he created human and all creature that in this world, some creature u can touch it feel it and some creature cant.
the fish in the ocean we eat them every single day in our life, people catch it million of fish everyday but they still there in the ocean where it came form? who feed them?
day that passing by, our body that grow bigger, your eyes that you used to!, who teach you to use them, to eat with a mouth, to hear from ear, the language that you speak! who make it from the very first time, when this intelligent begin. who started it.
why we called day is a day?
there is many question dint have a answer.because only the one who created it will know.
what is your purpose of life? to learn? to eat? to die? (everybody dies) why you life if you someday die. something that you collect in this world dint give any good to you after you die.
you said it before you want to become 'non-believer'.
i want, you just try put your-self together. and start thinking and praying.
ask 'GOD' to give you the 'truth'.
there is only 'ONE GOD'. when you find that, that will solve all the answer.
i will pray for you to. i really hope you found it.
start thinking searching you will found it. because GOD is watching and testing you.
this answer a lot. but what if after life DO exist,
if you dont believing GOD you will regret, if you do believe there is nothing to regret. its making you better in this world and the after life.
that what me believe. (any problem)
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To me it depends on the person. There are some people who really cant get by in life without believing in a purpose, a higher power, or without some direction which religion can give them.
Then there are some people who feel the need to contradict that because there is no logical reason to believe in such things.
And then there are people like me who just dont give a shit. I believe there may be a God just for the simple argument that its the easier answer as to how we all started out as an existence. But I also dont think that its some eternally loving God that wants us to repent every second of our lives. If it exists, its likely busy creating or doing some uncomprehendable shit.
Religions have contradictions(the bible is full of them, I would know I had to read the damn thing over and over)so I lost all interest logically and spiritually.
And once again while I have no need for the guidance of the bible, there are some people that do. It really all depends on what kind of person you are.
EDIT: Is it really smart to believe that all the mysteries and functions of the universe really all amount to just ONE answer?
Then there are some people who feel the need to contradict that because there is no logical reason to believe in such things.
And then there are people like me who just dont give a shit. I believe there may be a God just for the simple argument that its the easier answer as to how we all started out as an existence. But I also dont think that its some eternally loving God that wants us to repent every second of our lives. If it exists, its likely busy creating or doing some uncomprehendable shit.
Religions have contradictions(the bible is full of them, I would know I had to read the damn thing over and over)so I lost all interest logically and spiritually.
And once again while I have no need for the guidance of the bible, there are some people that do. It really all depends on what kind of person you are.
EDIT: Is it really smart to believe that all the mysteries and functions of the universe really all amount to just ONE answer?
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satoshi_hotaru wrote...
Tinymatters wrote...
satoshi_hotaru wrote...
this is serious matter! GOD is exist. he created this world, he created all this nature, he created human and all creature that in this world, some creature u can touch it feel it and some creature cant.
the fish in the ocean we eat them every single day in our life, people catch it million of fish everyday but they still there in the ocean where it came form? who feed them?
day that passing by, our body that grow bigger, your eyes that you used to!, who teach you to use them, to eat with a mouth, to hear from ear, the language that you speak! who make it from the very first time, when this intelligent begin. who started it.
why we called day is a day?
there is many question dint have a answer.because only the one who created it will know.
what is your purpose of life? to learn? to eat? to die? (everybody dies) why you life if you someday die. something that you collect in this world dint give any good to you after you die.
you said it before you want to become 'non-believer'.
i want, you just try put your-self together. and start thinking and praying.
ask 'GOD' to give you the 'truth'.
there is only 'ONE GOD'. when you find that, that will solve all the answer.
i will pray for you to. i really hope you found it.
start thinking searching you will found it. because GOD is watching and testing you.
this answer a lot. but what if after life DO exist,
if you dont believing GOD you will regret, if you do believe there is nothing to regret. its making you better in this world and the after life.
that what me believe. (any problem)
Seems to be trouble with the link, just copy and post it instead.
"False Dichotomy
The main flaw in this entire argument is assuming that Atheism and Christianity (or whatever religion you choose, for that matter) are the only two options.
In reality, there is Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, etc. so what if the person asking the question of, "What do you have to lose?" is, in fact, wrong in their assessment that the religion they chose is the true religion? You have quite a lot to lose if you are Christian and it turns out that Hinduism is the truth. How do we determine which religion to believe in?"
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Hmm, seems that you guys are having a pretty long conversation.
Anyways, I'm new here. YO-RO-SHI-KU. (If ya' know Great Teacher Onizuka, then you'll know what I mean by that version of 'Yoroshiku')
OK, so uhm, my views are different in the sense that I mix & match things- I create my own ideas based on what I know & choose the ones that really fit the bill.
Now, I'm a G.O.D person k? BUT, but, but... I think that the current system of organized religion has to catch up if they even really wanna survive.
I look at Christianity and I tend to see G.O.D like a weird paradox. (I.E: I follow the ancient Orthodox Greek ideas about G.O.D being a paradox of traits.)
I look at Islam (I'm a Muslim... Pretty different, liberal Muslim) and I really like the well-known philosophers such as ya' know Avicenna & all as well as the idea of 'moderation'. Of course, my idea & concept of moderation incorporates more liberal ideas than conservative ones. And man do I hate most of those clerics from Arabia, Pakistan, Iran & Afghanistan. Liberals are ALWAYS welcomed in my vicinity.
I look at Buddhism and I like the mystical approach it takes in regards to spirituality.
I look at Judaism and I like the ancient and enigmatic feeling that I get from trying to find out the truth behind all sorts of things that the Bible says. Well, I guess I can say that I do the same for the Qur'an and the Old Testament & the New Testament.
I have a strong sense of wanting to be independent of ultra-orthodox teachings. I choose what I'm gonna believe. I used to be cowered into submission by highly conservative and orthodox Muslim clerics and all, and they've left a great scar in my head. I believe that I'm free now... But I'll never be truly free until I live somewhere else cuz' I live in Malaysia and the rights of us Muslims are kinda restricted- PARTICULARLY when it comes to marriage and the freedom of choosing the religion I want.
Well, that I believe is a basic summary of my ideas.
JAJAJAS... Tonikaku, I enjoy most of the vanilla mangas I read, it allows me to feel and understand a little bit better about the nature of sex and the feeling of love that one can experience when one has sex with a beloved. (Sorry for the cheesy words I used, I just like it so much when 2 truly committed lovers have sex.)
Jaa naa!
Anyways, I'm new here. YO-RO-SHI-KU. (If ya' know Great Teacher Onizuka, then you'll know what I mean by that version of 'Yoroshiku')
OK, so uhm, my views are different in the sense that I mix & match things- I create my own ideas based on what I know & choose the ones that really fit the bill.
Now, I'm a G.O.D person k? BUT, but, but... I think that the current system of organized religion has to catch up if they even really wanna survive.
I look at Christianity and I tend to see G.O.D like a weird paradox. (I.E: I follow the ancient Orthodox Greek ideas about G.O.D being a paradox of traits.)
I look at Islam (I'm a Muslim... Pretty different, liberal Muslim) and I really like the well-known philosophers such as ya' know Avicenna & all as well as the idea of 'moderation'. Of course, my idea & concept of moderation incorporates more liberal ideas than conservative ones. And man do I hate most of those clerics from Arabia, Pakistan, Iran & Afghanistan. Liberals are ALWAYS welcomed in my vicinity.
I look at Buddhism and I like the mystical approach it takes in regards to spirituality.
I look at Judaism and I like the ancient and enigmatic feeling that I get from trying to find out the truth behind all sorts of things that the Bible says. Well, I guess I can say that I do the same for the Qur'an and the Old Testament & the New Testament.
I have a strong sense of wanting to be independent of ultra-orthodox teachings. I choose what I'm gonna believe. I used to be cowered into submission by highly conservative and orthodox Muslim clerics and all, and they've left a great scar in my head. I believe that I'm free now... But I'll never be truly free until I live somewhere else cuz' I live in Malaysia and the rights of us Muslims are kinda restricted- PARTICULARLY when it comes to marriage and the freedom of choosing the religion I want.
Well, that I believe is a basic summary of my ideas.
JAJAJAS... Tonikaku, I enjoy most of the vanilla mangas I read, it allows me to feel and understand a little bit better about the nature of sex and the feeling of love that one can experience when one has sex with a beloved. (Sorry for the cheesy words I used, I just like it so much when 2 truly committed lovers have sex.)
Jaa naa!
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Bit unrelated, but oh, how I wish I could read this part of the bible;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Eve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Eve
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I personally do not believe in God. Though I grew up in a catholic school. The way i see it religion is just something used by people to answer the questions they don't have answers too, and to give them a reason to be a good person. I feel that I have developed myself enough to no longer require religion to point me in the right direction.
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I myself do not believe in god or any god-like being. But what I do believe is in my own life and the life of others. And when I see others beliefs come I try to understand their reasoning of their beliefs. I have notice that many people who strongly believe in god has basically had a crummy life or has been raise in that way, while being secluded in others things. Many people I know have gone to the side of faith in a god because they themselves need someone or something to guide them. Basically they can not handle the actual task of finding real answers to their questions so they end up just believing their is a god that did everything. Now if that works for them it is fine as long as they find happiness.
So is it better to believe in a god or not? Well my opinion is that it is not better to believe in a god. The reason being because once you begin to just believe in a being that can do pretty much everything then the search for knowledge and discovery ends. Whenever people of faith withing a god ask why did this happen it will always end up in the same answer, because it was god's will or something close to it. When people as the question of why to life they begin the search of knowledge but people soon discover the faith in god and begin to see this as the actual truth or the actual knowledge they need, because it is easier for them to just say why, well it is because of god. But all in all it is just my opinion do not take it to heart, if your happy where you are then be happy. Just do not criticize others or try to convert.
So is it better to believe in a god or not? Well my opinion is that it is not better to believe in a god. The reason being because once you begin to just believe in a being that can do pretty much everything then the search for knowledge and discovery ends. Whenever people of faith withing a god ask why did this happen it will always end up in the same answer, because it was god's will or something close to it. When people as the question of why to life they begin the search of knowledge but people soon discover the faith in god and begin to see this as the actual truth or the actual knowledge they need, because it is easier for them to just say why, well it is because of god. But all in all it is just my opinion do not take it to heart, if your happy where you are then be happy. Just do not criticize others or try to convert.
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I don't believe In god. Yet for people that do, believing in god is a form of feeling better about yourself knowing something is there for you after you die. God helps people who are having a bad time keep going and never give up.
Yet, I don't believe in god and I live my life like any other person. So it does not really matter what you believe in.
Yet, I don't believe in god and I live my life like any other person. So it does not really matter what you believe in.
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sigh...well dude there is no definite answer to your pondering actually its up to the individual person if beliveing in a God will make him/her a socially useful, not a liability, good person and philosophy in life then better respect his/her belief but if not believing in any deity will make a person good, not a liability, etc... then better respect that person in what he doesn't believe and what he prefers to belief too... you don't need proof to believe and you don't need a reason not to believe what is important is that your useful to society and to the world ...and not a pathetic ignorant, pessimist, terrorist that just wanna spread the darkness and your hate... one we need to respect each other even if the belief in somethings is different.
the cause of war is misunderstanding, resources, hate for someones belief, status or whatever a person is envy of another all of those are cause by close minded yet manipulative people we don't what that... in short we don't care what you believe in or what the hell you are not believing in just as long as you are a person with a good-willed and have a heart you are welcome and a better person in society
the cause of war is misunderstanding, resources, hate for someones belief, status or whatever a person is envy of another all of those are cause by close minded yet manipulative people we don't what that... in short we don't care what you believe in or what the hell you are not believing in just as long as you are a person with a good-willed and have a heart you are welcome and a better person in society
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Believing is better i suppose, we all need something to cling on life whether its god, wealth, pride, ego, friends, achievements, anything!
The thing is not all of us is capable of accepting things as they happen and channel it to 'his' big plans that he wills it etc - when they just gave up because they think life is already determined that's the start of something ugly. That's when i think believing isn't a good idea.
Sums things up: I'm neutral on this choice - I already opt to believe it though and haven't regret it at all.
The thing is not all of us is capable of accepting things as they happen and channel it to 'his' big plans that he wills it etc - when they just gave up because they think life is already determined that's the start of something ugly. That's when i think believing isn't a good idea.
Sums things up: I'm neutral on this choice - I already opt to believe it though and haven't regret it at all.
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godotccf wrote...
Either way I can't find a definite answer to my calling. :/ And you shouldn't be able to find one. You should have a calling that adapts and molds to the way you do with your life. Your beliefs will change as your priorities do, and as your knowledge does.
If you try to keep a rigid belief system for yourself, you'll often cause yourself a lot of contradictions and conflict. It's better to first start by sitting down and thinking about what is truly important. One of the best ways to do this is to think that if you turn around and looked at your past at the end of your life, what type of emotions do you want to feel. What would make you feel that way about your decisions?
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It depends some people need a religion to get them through life and some don't. Just chose whatever makes you happy.
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i think to believe in god is obviously the better way to go, but at the same time not putting too much faith in him either cause to be honest the only one you can really put your faith in is yourself.
the thing bout god is that the idea of the ultimate being keeps well us in line. Bluntly people are greedy and stupid. Imagine how chaotic it would be if no one feared being damned to hell?
Just look at the politics in Malaysia, the situation is bad enough despite how religious we are.(rather not say more) but i love my country.
the thing bout god is that the idea of the ultimate being keeps well us in line. Bluntly people are greedy and stupid. Imagine how chaotic it would be if no one feared being damned to hell?
Just look at the politics in Malaysia, the situation is bad enough despite how religious we are.(rather not say more) but i love my country.
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I never believed in God which is weird considering I grew up in a Catholic household. Still, I always considered myself agnostic because there's a chance anything could exits no matter how unrealistic it may sound. And yes, I'm somewhat believe stuff like the Yeti exists.
I love my parents for the fact that they allowed me to always be myself and never forced anything upon me. Since religion never affected my life negatively, I really don't have any hate towards it. I respect everyone's beliefs whether they believe in A god or not. Sometimes, I wish people would show the same respect towards me. That's why I tend to stray away from religious discussion. I'm apathetic towards it and really couldn't care less about it. I hold no religious beliefs.
My parents are happy believing in God while I'm happy without him. There's no better here. It all depends how you treat religion.
I love my parents for the fact that they allowed me to always be myself and never forced anything upon me. Since religion never affected my life negatively, I really don't have any hate towards it. I respect everyone's beliefs whether they believe in A god or not. Sometimes, I wish people would show the same respect towards me. That's why I tend to stray away from religious discussion. I'm apathetic towards it and really couldn't care less about it. I hold no religious beliefs.
My parents are happy believing in God while I'm happy without him. There's no better here. It all depends how you treat religion.