Why am I (not)an atheist?
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I'm atheist, since from what I believe, religion was created in attempt to explain the supernatural. Yet, during the modern age, everything that had been deemed an act of holiness can now be explained using science.
Most of the major religions were created 2-3 thousand years ago, an age where People have begun to develop interest in the ways of the world, where science was not yet promoted and accepted to the rather large percentage of the populace. The people were afraid of thunder and lightning, yet also curious in WHY rain would fall, thunder would strike, why rivers would flow, why things work like they do. In their attempt to understand such happenings, they created a divine figure, one who controls everything. By believing in his existence, things could be explained. For example, if someone had suddenly died of an unknown cause, the whole village would panic, thinking it of a result caused by ghosts or spirits that would later kill them in the same way. However, after religion has been spread, they would believe that it was divine punishment, calming them somewhat in thinking that as long as their faith was pure and devout, they would not have to suffer the same consequences.
Putting the first explanation aside, people might also just wanted something to believe in so that they could feel safer. Having someone who you could reside your faith in really helps sometimes when people are troubled, and during that time where medical reliefs nor specific methods towards stress relief didn't seem likely, people adapted to religion. The people who adapted to that religion, also passed it to their children, and their children doing the same, passed it on till this very day.
In the modern age however, quite a majority of religious believers had admitted that their families had a big influence on whether they should adapt to a religion. When you were born into a catholic family, you were most likely catholic than atheist. Personally, I originated from a background where my whole family is atheist, and thus, in a sense, I was also affected by them and had become atheist. More of the reason though, is probably because I believe in the explanations science can provide me with rather than someone passing it off with "It is the will of God". Lightning is formed when charges in clouds do this and that, the splitting of the red sea was coincidentally during a time of low tide....etc. And thus, why I am an Atheist.
Most of the major religions were created 2-3 thousand years ago, an age where People have begun to develop interest in the ways of the world, where science was not yet promoted and accepted to the rather large percentage of the populace. The people were afraid of thunder and lightning, yet also curious in WHY rain would fall, thunder would strike, why rivers would flow, why things work like they do. In their attempt to understand such happenings, they created a divine figure, one who controls everything. By believing in his existence, things could be explained. For example, if someone had suddenly died of an unknown cause, the whole village would panic, thinking it of a result caused by ghosts or spirits that would later kill them in the same way. However, after religion has been spread, they would believe that it was divine punishment, calming them somewhat in thinking that as long as their faith was pure and devout, they would not have to suffer the same consequences.
Putting the first explanation aside, people might also just wanted something to believe in so that they could feel safer. Having someone who you could reside your faith in really helps sometimes when people are troubled, and during that time where medical reliefs nor specific methods towards stress relief didn't seem likely, people adapted to religion. The people who adapted to that religion, also passed it to their children, and their children doing the same, passed it on till this very day.
In the modern age however, quite a majority of religious believers had admitted that their families had a big influence on whether they should adapt to a religion. When you were born into a catholic family, you were most likely catholic than atheist. Personally, I originated from a background where my whole family is atheist, and thus, in a sense, I was also affected by them and had become atheist. More of the reason though, is probably because I believe in the explanations science can provide me with rather than someone passing it off with "It is the will of God". Lightning is formed when charges in clouds do this and that, the splitting of the red sea was coincidentally during a time of low tide....etc. And thus, why I am an Atheist.
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I'm not atheist, as in, I do believe in the supernatural, BUT I do not believe in this concept of an "omnipotent being", or, better, I simply don't care anymore.
I used to be Catholic, but not by choice. It was the typical trend (plus my mother was quite religious): make the children go to church on Sundays, make them study the doctrine and so on. Well, to put it simply, at first I complied because I was simply too little and too dumb to do otherwise, then I simply said "ok let's end this charade, I don't give a damn about Gods or what".
Which is true. While many have found an answer to the more philosophical questions of life (why we exist, what awaits us after physical death, etc.) through believing, I did not. Maybe I'm just lazy and tend to think about other stuff instead of pondering on the meaning of life, but I care about religion only from a historical point of view. My faith, if there was any, was lost before junior high.
I used to be Catholic, but not by choice. It was the typical trend (plus my mother was quite religious): make the children go to church on Sundays, make them study the doctrine and so on. Well, to put it simply, at first I complied because I was simply too little and too dumb to do otherwise, then I simply said "ok let's end this charade, I don't give a damn about Gods or what".
Which is true. While many have found an answer to the more philosophical questions of life (why we exist, what awaits us after physical death, etc.) through believing, I did not. Maybe I'm just lazy and tend to think about other stuff instead of pondering on the meaning of life, but I care about religion only from a historical point of view. My faith, if there was any, was lost before junior high.
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McCoolName wrote...
I used to be a Catholic, not very devout maybe, but still... I used to reject evolution, and so on...Things started to change when I read for the first time the Bible - well, I started reading it, but never completed due to all the boring bits, like genealogies - and saw all the problems - moral and logical - with it and with god. I lost then most of my faith, and stopped following any official doctrine.
As time went on, I started to see the world with a different view - a view where god was less and less important. I started to try to think more rationally over things, I started to look out for lies, fallacies and the like. I started to love ALL of science. I saw how hypocrite most people are. I started to know more and more about how wrong this world is. I became more and more of a nihilist and atheist, and my pessimistic side worsened a lot. Basically I went from wide-eyed idealist to a mixture of idealist and cynic. I simply stopped "seeing" god in things.
-facepalm-
WHY DOES EVERY SINGLE ATHEIST THAT I RUN INTO SAY:
"i nevr red da baibul b4 and den hwen ai red it, ai faund owt dat gaad wuzent awlweiz kaind and 4gihving so dats hwai ai am n atheist."
THAT IS A STUPID ANSWER. I SUGGEST YOU GO GET THE HEBREW OLD TESTAMENT, A HEBREW TRANSLATION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, LEARN HOW TO READ HEBREW, AND THEN (ONLY THEN) MAKE YOUR DECISION.
-takes a deep breath-
If you base your beliefs on what your priest/abbot/friar etc. told you about the text, then you should be slapped in the face.
It is these people that confuse יהוה (Yahweh) and Yeshua (a.k.a. Yesu, Yesus, Iesu, Iesus, Jesu, Jesus), his son.
I'll give you folks a brief synopsis:
YAHWEH [name literally means "He who exists."]: The one who added life to (but not created, as most translations say) the Earth. He is VERY, VERY strict, not allow Moses, one who had served him throughout his entire life, into the Holy Land SIMPLY because he hit a rock with his staff instead of speaking to it. His name only appears once or twice in most translations of the Old Testament, his name being translated as a capitalised "lord" in every other instance because of ancient tradition banning the pronunciation of his name.
YESHUA OF NASH'RATH: Also known as "Jesus Christ", a translation of his title "Yeshua, the Messiah." He is the son of Yahweh, and the one who seemingly convinced his father to be more forgiving, and also died for the sins of man.
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Lughost
the Lugoat
Spoiler:
That's something I didn't know, but this thread is not for comments like this. To quote the thread's creator:
BigLundi wrote...
This thread is not about religious debate. This thread is not about why I think YOU should be an atheist, or why you think I should be a theist, this thread is simply about describing why we are, what we are. I urge everyone here not to debate these points and reasons, as I will create a SEPARATE thread for exactly that.I've been following this thread- even posted in it- and I'd like to see it stay the way it has been.
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I believed when I was younger, now I just don't believe.
People die and they thank a man for it all. Creations are credited towards God. Everythings credited towards God.
Can't we all just thank ourselves for once? Of course, I have more reasons, but it would take too long to type.
People die and they thank a man for it all. Creations are credited towards God. Everythings credited towards God.
Can't we all just thank ourselves for once? Of course, I have more reasons, but it would take too long to type.
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I'm a theist just for the hell of it. I have no real giant reasons for it. I'm the kind of person that thinks all gods are my god, including in the instance that they aren't there. Part of it is the thought process where if even one person believes in something then its real, even if that contradicts other things. Thats what I tell people that i dont know what i believe. To people who i know i just say i'm lutheran like my mom, my dad was the kind of person who didnt care what you believe as long as you dont try to preach it to him.
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I just don't find religion believable.
I hope I'm wrong, because I'm terrified of dying, but I doubt it. :(
I usually don't like to say I'm an atheist though, because of what people tend to think it means.
If asked I just say "I'm not religious". Tends to go over better.
I hope I'm wrong, because I'm terrified of dying, but I doubt it. :(
I usually don't like to say I'm an atheist though, because of what people tend to think it means.
If asked I just say "I'm not religious". Tends to go over better.
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Im an atheist but sorry i was to lazy to read your long ass post.
But in my belief there is not god.
We only think there is so we have something to look forward to after death.
So if you cannot see it, hear it, or feel it..it does not exist.
But in my belief there is not god.
We only think there is so we have something to look forward to after death.
So if you cannot see it, hear it, or feel it..it does not exist.
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guammastermind671
Da RL Lurker at FAKKU
I used to believe in God, but now I believe that most religions are connected through a higher power, so overall I agree with your position BigLundi.
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DJ Not Nice wrote...
So if you cannot see it, hear it, or feel it..it does not exist.
Omg you just proved that dark matter doesn't exist , gratz you won the nobel prize of 2012 !
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Spoiler:
It's amazing, right? To have your entire world rocked, to suddenly have your entire view on the world just warped, and it was all in the forums of an asian pornographic website.
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dragonsheart967 wrote...
Spoiler:
It's amazing, right? To have your entire world rocked, to suddenly have your entire view on the world just warped, and it was all in the forums of an asian pornographic website.
[color=#2e1a6b]Any medium of intelligent discussion would have done the same. It just happens that the medium I found was a site for people to masturbate to hentai.
on a somewhat random note, I love to read poll results like this:
"among people who masturbate to hentai, 60% support [whatever the poll was]"
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neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
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lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
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neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
But you also have no reason not to believe in it ?
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lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
But you also have no reason not to believe in it ?
indeed. You are forgetting the "I" or, for you, the "You" factor. You can't change what other people believe because it often involve everything around their lives. YOU can't change MY beliefs with mere logic.
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neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
But you also have no reason not to believe in it ?
indeed. You are forgetting the "I" or, for you, the "You" factor. You can't change what other people believe because it often involve everything around their lives. YOU can't change MY beliefs with mere logic.
But i don't want to change your beliefs , i just don't understand why you believe in god since their is no reason not to believe in one but their's also no reason not to believe in unicorns but you don't believe in them :/
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lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
But you also have no reason not to believe in it ?
indeed. You are forgetting the "I" or, for you, the "You" factor. You can't change what other people believe because it often involve everything around their lives. YOU can't change MY beliefs with mere logic.
But i don't want to change your beliefs , i just don't understand why you believe in god since their is no reason not to believe in one but their's also no reason not to believe in unicorns but you don't believe in them :/
BigLundi wrote...
This thread is not about religious debate. This thread is not about why I think YOU should be an atheist, or why you think I should be a theist, this thread is simply about describing why we are, what we are. I urge everyone here not to debate these points and reasons, as I will create a SEPARATE thread for exactly that.
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say what! wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
neofranky wrote...
I believe in my god because I see no reason not to believe in one. So you believe in unicorns ?
no, I have no reason to believe in them.
But you also have no reason not to believe in it ?
indeed. You are forgetting the "I" or, for you, the "You" factor. You can't change what other people believe because it often involve everything around their lives. YOU can't change MY beliefs with mere logic.
But i don't want to change your beliefs , i just don't understand why you believe in god since their is no reason not to believe in one but their's also no reason not to believe in unicorns but you don't believe in them :/
BigLundi wrote...
This thread is not about religious debate. This thread is not about why I think YOU should be an atheist, or why you think I should be a theist, this thread is simply about describing why we are, what we are. I urge everyone here not to debate these points and reasons, as I will create a SEPARATE thread for exactly that.This thread is boring and should not belong in serious discussion since it's not a discussion if he don't make this promised debate thread ¬¬