Why are we here?
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Kalistean wrote...
gentle Jichan wrote...
Kalistean wrote...
But that is often a byproduct of it and not its purpose.Sounds the same as going to school for the sole purpose of graduating from it.
Um no. It's more like going to school for developing friendships with people.
Deal. Yeah, often~ is an appropriate generalization here.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
gentle Jichan wrote...
Kalistean wrote...
gentle Jichan wrote...
Kalistean wrote...
But that is often a byproduct of it and not its purpose.Sounds the same as going to school for the sole purpose of graduating from it.
Um no. It's more like going to school for developing friendships with people.
Deal. Yeah, often~ is an appropriate generalization here.
Ok, that didn't make any sense, so yeah.
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Kalistean wrote...
It doesn't require or need the higher power to have a religion. Though if you really wanted to, you could just view it philosophy. You could definitely make arguments as to whether or not religion and philosophy are the same thing, or near the same thing.As for science being a religion. I would suggest some people do try to make it such. Though science answers HOW more than anything, and never answers WHY. Religion and Science don't answer the same questions. It's when you try to make them do so that problems occur.
I would not say you do so. Don't know you personally so couldn't say anything on that.
I would still say you have your own personal religion. I know that a lot of atheists dislike being compared to anything with the word religion in it, but it's the truth. Even the whole "There is nothing but random instances and nothing beyond that" is a religion.
Sorry, I just want to interrupt you two here.
YOU.
KALISTEAN.
ARE.
SOOOOOOO. FUCKING.
RETARDED.
First, religion is not philosophy. Religion, the belief in a higher deity, is the same as organized religion, whatever the fuck you really mean by that. Because there are religions that don't have institutions and are organized and such, but still have a belief in a higher deity, and there are also your regular religions, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, which are definitely organized. Philosophy is a set of beliefs based on life experiences. You can use philosophy to make up part of your religion, but it does not ultimately define religion.
Second, science is the study of the natural world. In other words, yes, it does explain why, because nature simply said so. Are you going to ask me, "Then why did nature say so?" I don't know. I do know it certainly wasn't because of some goddamn imaginary wizard. And who cares? We live in the natural world, and asking why it is is probably a question that we'll never answer, because that would be thinking outside of our natural world, which would be the same thing as not thinking at all.
Third, so yea, atheists don't have "religions", they have philosophies. Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism are philosophies, not religions (I will admit, I do recall Buddhism maybe having some sort of unofficial higher deity or something).
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
NeoStriker wrote...
Kalistean wrote...
It doesn't require or need the higher power to have a religion. Though if you really wanted to, you could just view it philosophy. You could definitely make arguments as to whether or not religion and philosophy are the same thing, or near the same thing.As for science being a religion. I would suggest some people do try to make it such. Though science answers HOW more than anything, and never answers WHY. Religion and Science don't answer the same questions. It's when you try to make them do so that problems occur.
I would not say you do so. Don't know you personally so couldn't say anything on that.
I would still say you have your own personal religion. I know that a lot of atheists dislike being compared to anything with the word religion in it, but it's the truth. Even the whole "There is nothing but random instances and nothing beyond that" is a religion.
Sorry, I just want to interrupt you two here.
YOU.
KALISTEAN.
ARE.
SOOOOOOO. FUCKING.
RETARDED.
First, religion is not philosophy. Religion, the belief in a higher deity, is the same as organized religion, whatever the fuck you really mean by that. Because there are religions that don't have institutions and are organized and such, but still have a belief in a higher deity, and there are also your regular religions, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, which are definitely organized. Philosophy is a set of beliefs based on life experiences. You can use philosophy to make up part of your religion, but it does not ultimately define religion.
Second, science is the study of the natural world. In other words, yes, it does explain why, because nature simply said so. Are you going to ask me, "Then why did nature say so?" I don't know. I do know it certainly wasn't because of some goddamn imaginary wizard. And who cares? We live in the natural world, and asking why it is is probably a question that we'll never answer, because that would be thinking outside of our natural world, which would be the same thing as not thinking at all.
Third, so yea, atheists don't have "religions", they have philosophies. Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism are philosophies, not religions (I will admit, I do recall Buddhism maybe having some sort of unofficial higher deity or something).
You just mad cause you can't stalk me in pms.
If you are unaware of why I'm not taking your post seriously, it's because you decided to come flame me in the middle of a serious discussion and make it personal.
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Mod Note: I would urge all users to refrain from insulting others. If such an incident were to occur in this thread again, I might have to delete a few posts and perhaps lock the entire discussion.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Getting back on topic, I believe we are all here for a reason. Collectively, as humans, there are many reasons to explain our existence, be it through religion or science. On the other hand, as individuals, it is up to oneself to discover one's purpose in life e.g. helping others, bringing laughter to people or even maintaining law and order in society.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Getting back on topic, I believe we are all here for a reason. Collectively, as humans, there are many reasons to explain our existence, be it through religion or science. On the other hand, as individuals, it is up to oneself to discover one's purpose in life e.g. helping others, bringing laughter to people or even maintaining law and order in society.
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Our purpose on earth is to have fun..one way or the other...Everything we create or have created is for the purpose of an easier or happier life.I don't believe in any god..there is no proof for that...I am wondering what's gonna happen in the future though
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Aai
FAKKU Ass Master
iLaughDonuts wrote...
The purpose of life is to get laid and die.I second that.
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I miss the good ol days when Egyptians believed that Ptah stood on the primordial mound, masturbated, and created the God's and humans.
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Tsumagi wrote...
(Sorry if someone else already posted this subject.) What is our purpose? For what reason are we here? Is there some greater existance? Or are we just here because we are? Are we nothing more than mistakes? What do you think?Perhaps because your parents received the MBA status (Married By Accident)?
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I wanna live. I don’t wanna die. That’s the whole meaning of life: Not dying! I figured that shit out by myself in the third grade.
This is pretty much why I love George Carlin, lol.
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Why do we need a reason? Can't the reason just be to live? Meh... I don't really care, I just wanna be happy.
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Curiosity is the toughest thing to overcome cause everyone wants to see past the darkness but the darkness is anything for example: death, age, or various other things you can think of. ^_^
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I fell that our purpose in life is just to fuck, make kids, and keep the economy going. (witch at the moment is not doing vary well)
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
We are here to find purpose basically. That purpose can manifest into numerous things such as money, family, fame, religion, drugs...
I'm still looking for my purpose in life, but so far I'm happy with the little things.
I'm still looking for my purpose in life, but so far I'm happy with the little things.
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Purpose? Existence? Mistake? There is none. There are some decent arguments out there about it, such as passing genes on, reproduce, to live, to create history; but these things only matter if the human race can eternally go on. Thinking that time is endless and the universe will continue to expand, break down and expand again all of that just becomes empty. So since answer itself is nothing, it becomes anything to the individual. The answer to "Why are we here?" simply allows us to classify what takes priority in life as the individual lives it.