Fate RP discussion thread.

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http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_Grail

Corruption section.

Yeah I dont really like that section on the grail maybe its how they worded it but there are too many things in there that are incorrect like the description between the 2 grails.

So, what's going on? Are we discussing on whether we can summon anti-heroes or not?

Also, I sorta realized something. If there are going to be 2 Servants for each class besides Avenger and Savior, then the chances of Rider/Saber/Archer being the remaining classes are sorta low... :(

As from what I learned in Fate/Extra, not all heroes are Noble. Some are infamous, and villainous (like Jack the Ripper).

Yeah. So? If we're doing the 3rd HGW, anti-heroes can't be summoned, IIRC.

What is IIRC? I see it a lot and don't know what it is...

But they can be summoned in any Grail War, I think at least.

If I Remember Correctly. Not to be confused with IRC which is a basic chat program.

Mkay. Thank you Xenon.

They can't. It's mentioned in the visual novel. I think Illya specifically mentions that during the Heaven's Feel scenario IIRC.

IIRC, any assassin was originally infamous. But I think you can do that for any other class as well, so long as you have an item connected to them.

If you couldn't summon anti-heros there wouldn't be an assassin class while it can be based on perspective assassins are considered evil by the general public even if their actions were righteous.

...What? I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.



False. The Assassin class was implemented at the start by a rule; Assassins would always come from one of the 19 Hassans. Personality/actions didn't matter; Assassins would come from one of the Hassans. The fake Assassin (Sasaki) during the 4th HGW was an error allowed by the corrupted Holy Grail. Pretty sure that was mentioned in the visual novel.

I'm trying to tell you, that outside of the Fate/Stay Night universe, all the assassins are infamous, and are not of the Hassan.

What assassins are you talking about? John Wilkes Booth? Lee Harvey Oswald? Of course they would be infamous; they assassinated important political figures. So, what is your point?

Lu Bu, Jack the Ripper, Semiramis... All the assassins from Fate that don't have ties with the story of Fate/Stay Night are all from infamous sources.

I know about the deal with Hassan but he cant still be considered evil from certain perspectives so whats to stop others from summoning similar circumstanced servants.

Lu Bu was a berserker Li Shuwen is the assassin from Extra

Alright. They're infamous. So?

The condition to be an Assassin is to be able to operate steathily, covertly, and silently. This would normally mean no assassin would ever be able to qualify for status as a Heroic Spirit. Hassah can qualify because he was the leader of an apparently large and substantial organization, where only his title was passed down, thus he still remained covert while being famous at the same time. After this, I'm not sure. His organization could be so large that they are able to make the Grail see Hassah as "good". Perhaps because it is merely a title, the actual person could've been good, even though others would see "Hassah" as evil. Perhaps the Heroic Spirit simply cannot be evil, meaning Neutral and Good Heroic Spirits can qualify.

You're not on Ether pad. >_>