Angel Beats!

Since my words has been taken.

great show, had fun, now they must animate LITTLE BUSTERS or else....

episode 10 was the highlight of this series... the end was far too ambiguous for my taste; I did baw a bit but some of the graduation stuff kept interrupting the mood.

the series felt rushed btw, especially the last 3 episodes.

i definitely agree there. seems like they couldve made it so much better if it werent only 13 episodes.

Nothing more to say than Great Show, I enjoyed it. Could've been longer and more in-depth, but overall it made me teary-eyed more than once.

The last episode made everyone change. Kanade laughed and talked too much, TK wasn't even there, Yuri was way to girlie...

The ending was was... interesting, but it wasn't the best. But it WAS a good end to an awesome series. I definitely think that it all came together too quickly though. Could have been a bit more drawn out.

Meh. Then I'm be complaining that there was too much fluff. Meh. Whatever.

All an elaborate plot to make us read the manga. If we want to know the other members past and what not, we have wait for the manga, which is currently serialized on a monthly basis. Still though, I liked the ending, just wanted more.


Kanade: "Yuri's quite funny, isn't she?"

Her expression and tone in that line, to me, just felt like way out of her usual character.

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Rushed is rushed.

Mass disappearance by the lesser Non-NPCs? Check.
Offscreen disappearance of some of the important cast of SSS? Including TK and GirlDeMo? Check.
Takamatsu reverting to a non-NPC? Check. By narration.
Final boss that didn't even appear at all? Right...

The only thing I liked in the ending was the bit about Kanade and Yuzuru. Aside from that, everything's forced.
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So I watched it all within a day. I don't think I got the same impression as those who watched it in time intervals, so to have the opportunity to take in what just happened.

Pretty good series. TK was definitely a very cool man. I still questioned why the Warfront kept shooting when Tenshi had her Distortion on.

I loved the ending of the end. I cried, then I saw the last of the ending I was like "YES".

But...

That's IMO a major flaw, just for conveniences sake.

if it's really rebirth, why did they re-birthed as the same person.

KEY has never been scientifically right, but that's just pushing it a bit.

Isn't it more or less just wishes of how things could have turned out? Like the scene with Hinata and Yui? Idk but that's just what I think.

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Could have turned out if they didn't die?

I can understand the Yui x Hinata moment, since Hinata explained their "would-be" moment, if they hadn't died but met instead. The scene only showed the imagination of the two.

But the bit at the end? I can't really say that that's their "would-be" moment. Kanade's humming My Song, a song (in the story) that came from the Afterlife world-what-you-call-it. It didn't came from the real world, at least. Unless Iwasawa managed to create a record before dying.

The alternate scenario of course is that they're the reincarnated souls of Kanade and Yuzuru. If that's the case then the Afterlife they've been through is a place to prepare the souls for reincarnation. And by rebirth, it would also explain why My Song ended up in the real world as well, since Iwasawa would also exist and compose it again, maybe. BUT...to return to their true forms again is quite stretching it a bit. Assuming they died months ago and they're reincarnated again in the same time period -- I didn't notice anything differentiating how many years have come by -- I say the Afterlife follows a whacked-up time flow.

Oh. And Kanade sported earphones for a brief moment. The scene before and after it -- the earphones went missing. Yuzuru on a loli attack after reincarnation made me laugh.
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I say you're thinking to hard about the details. The scene is probably just meant to show the audience a happy ending, and make sure people understand that Otonashi also choose to disappear instead of staying and explaining stuff to newcomers, as he proposed he and Kanade should do.

I can only assume that they didn't think that making Otonashi disappear at the credits wasn't enough, so instead they did a scene similar to the one Yui and Hinata had to reassure that Otonashi wasn't forced to "kill" Kanade and left behind all alone. Now that would be a sad ending.

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Nitpicky, aren't I? Even if you say that, aren't endings (episodic or series) supposed to provide the viewers with something to ponder about in the end? We wouldn't even be discussing the ending if they weren't meaningful to us, right?
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The viewers can already infer from the ending credits that Otonashi chose to disappear. It's not hard, really. They can do without the last 21 seconds. Or maybe the bonus ep would clarify a few more things for us? Either way, the last bit really surprised me, but it didn't give the Hinata x Yui vibes.
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Kill is such an ugly word. Try voluntary disappearance. Remember, Kanade left with her own volition. And if you think about it, Kanade could've disappeared several episodes ago but stayed until the very bitter end like Naoi and Hinata. Otonashi grasping for her vanished body sure was tearjerking somehow.

It was originally Otonashi's plan to stay in that world with Kanade to help others like the SSS. Otonashi's shown to be very selfless in earlier eps (with his sister, with the passengers in the train accident, and with everyone in the Afterworld), now it's the time for him to be selfish. And his only one selfish wish was to be with Kanade in that world -- maybe for all eternity. And this, is something Kanade couldn't accept because she has attained her wish, her desire of thanking the person who gave her his heart. Physically and metaphorically speaking, Otonashi fits both. If that isn't romantic, I don't know what it is.

"Let me believe what you've been believing. That living is wonderful...Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for loving me." --Kanade

Kanade wasn't forced to vanish. She vanished because she's fulfilled her goal, and that was to thank Otonashi, either because of their circumstantial relationship in their past life or because she's growing to love him more. Either way, she moved on with her life and death. And that, cherishing life, has been the main point at all.

And again, the last 20 seconds was so out of place for me. Did I begin to wonder? Yes. Did it invoke any emotion from me? Not really. Was it a suitable ending? Maybe.
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Since quotes doesn't seem to work properly at the moment, this will have to suffice. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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4manyak wrote...[size=11]
The viewers can already infer from the ending credits that Otonashi chose to disappear. It's not hard, really. They can do without the last 21 seconds. Or maybe the bonus ep would clarify a few more things for us? Either way, the last bit really surprised me, but it didn't give the Hinata x Yui vibes.
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Sadly enough I believe you're overestimating the eye for details of some people, and I'm not saying it had the same feeling as the one between Yui and Hinata, because I wasn't pointing out how they did the scene, I was guessing on why they did it.

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Kill is such an ugly word.[/h]

I agree, thus the "", but it was a simple term for what happened because in one sense she does die, and that because of Otonashi, I'm not saying it was a bad thing.

4manyak wrote...
[size=11] Remember, Kanade left with her own volition. And if you think about it, Kanade could've disappeared several episodes ago but stayed until the very bitter end like Naoi and Hinata. Otonashi grasping for her vanished body sure was tearjerking somehow.[/h]


But also remember that she begged Otonashi to tell her he loved her, because otherwise she wouldn't disappear.

4manyak wrote...
[size=11] It was originally Otonashi's plan to stay in that world with Kanade to help others like the SSS. Otonashi's shown to be very selfless in earlier eps (with his sister, with the passengers in the train accident, and with everyone in the Afterworld), now it's the time for him to be selfish. And his only one selfish wish was to be with Kanade in that world -- maybe for all eternity. And this, is something Kanade couldn't accept because she has attained her wish, her desire of thanking the person who gave her his heart. Physically and metaphorically speaking, Otonashi fits both.[/h]

It is never really stated in the series that he plans to stay after the members of the Brigade has been saved, this idea doesn't come forth until this last episode. The only thing you get to know is that he plans to make all the members of the brigade disappear.

4manyak wrote...
[size=11]If that isn't romantic, I don't know what it is.

"Let me believe what you've been believing. That living is wonderful...Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for loving me." --Kanade[/h]

Yeah, I totally agree with that.

4manyak wrote...
[size=11]Kanade wasn't forced to vanish. She vanished because she's fulfilled her goal, and that was to thank Otonashi, either because of their circumstantial relationship in their past life or because she's growing to love him more. Either way, she moved on with her life and death. And that, cherishing life, has been the main point at all.[/h]

No, Kanade wasn't forced to vanish, but Otonashi was forced to make her disappear, and that is the sad part. He was forced to, in a sense, kill the girl he loves in order to make her happy. Leaving him all alone in the afterlife, and don't forget that in the episode before we heard the story of how the Angel Player was created - A man whose lover left before him, triggering him to make himself into a NPC.

And yeah, the last scene was kinda out of place, but I'm still quite convinced that the scene's sole purpose was to reassure the audience of the happy ending.

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The why can be many. Seriously, there can be so many reasons why they added such thing. I don't even want to start with one.
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Yes. Exactly that. But knowing Otonashi's Messiah complex, as shown in the Train Accident episode, there really is a huge chance that he would want to stay with Kanade and help people move on. That same episode also gave us a vague idea of what the eventual ending would be: that they'd be the last left; Otonashi asked Kanade by her bedside to help him in assisting the non-NPCs. It's from that episode as well. Plus, during the Monster Stream(?) episode, Otonashi gave the feeling that he was like proposing to Kanade.
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Otonashi wasn't forced to make her disappear. It still goes way back to when Kanade tells her gratitude that she'll disappear. And even after she told him her many thanks, she could've stayed. Naoi, Yuri, and Hinata managed to stay even though they've accomplished their life's goal. Finally overcoming her regret of not being able to thank her benefactor, does she stay? No. She leaves, but she leaves satisfied, and very much loved. Was it selfish of her to leave the person who loves her and gave away his own heart? Probably. Did she leave for a good reason? Yes. She's lived a fulfilling life already and honestly, she can't ask for more. Maybe she also didn't want the Shadow error to occur again because of the two of them staying.

Okay, I get what you're saying. Otonashi felt that its his fault that she disappeared. But...if you truly loved someone, wouldn't you set them free? Otonashi went on and disappeared...maybe now with a bit of regret for losing Kanade. But wouldn't that be the main reason that the two of them met up in that scene? It sounds cheesy but I guess love conquered all in the end.
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And forgive me. The Bloody Quotes don't work as they're supposed to.

Damn, it was pretty sad. He's the only one left.

It was good while it lasted..

Woho! Quotes works as they're supposed again.



I did, but I can obviously do nothing more than guess, it felt like a logical reason to put in that scene.


Yeah, I totally understand why he agreed to make her disappear in the first place and he did the right thing, but if he had been left alone that would've been sad. And the post above seems to prove the point that some people should need a little more reassurance than just seeing Otonashi fade away during the credits. So I agree with that love conquers all but I don't think that scene shows the "reality" so to speak, more a wish of how things could be.

Angel was so moe, he should reload the game and try to trigger different flags and see if it turns out any differently.... kidding, no that was tear-jerking.

OK I'm a little confused on an incosistency on the show.
1.Kanade got Yuzuru's heart
2.When Kanade died she regreted not thanking the one that gave the heart to her.(explains why shes in that world)
3.Yuzuru got lost in that world becuz he lost his memories.
4.Yuzuro died first but Kanade was already fighting the battlefront

This is why I never said, "Oh Jun Maeda is A GENIUS" at the first place. Angel Beats has too many plot holes.

most people here is "KEY biased", and can't be objective.

food for thought
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