FAKKU Writers' Lounge

It's none of me and your business actually, it's up to the writer himself on how he wants to improve~



Insight eh. Though we must take note that not all people would be available in order to fulfill certain specializations, and I think the overall quality of judging doesn't merely decided by their level of specialized ability . We all have our fields of interest and style of judging and reviewing, why not use 'interest' rather than 'expertise' instead?



I'm not saying similar to the same, I mean similar as the judges can understand each other. They could write different genres but has achieved similar mastery, but that's not what mostly important I guess~

Surely you didn't forget to add 'Reading Comprehension' towards the roster?



I have no comments to that~

None at all. A work with very terrible grammar is nigh unreadable and cannot be graded exactly because of that. Grammar should not have any impact on scoring, it should only affect readability.

I won't even bother to read it if it's mostly destroyed, so it's also none~

Kind of agreed with Mibu too

I mean, whether or not a writer wants to improve, or even how he wants to improve is something no one other than him/herself. But, the point is to allow them that catalyst. When I leave a message on insight and structure and grammar and meaning of a story that I reviewed, I don't assume that person is just going to do everything I say. But, I shouldn't be the only one reviewing the work either. When a group of people put out ideas on how to improve something, the writer is free to pick and choose how he wants to improve (if he does). If he sees that someone said 'the first part of the story feels rushed' and thinks, 'Oh yeah! It does feel rushed. I bet that if I improve and work on this part, the writing could convey my message better!' That's the kind of improvement I'm talking about.

I've written reviews for works about their grammar because I could barely read the work. That person never fixed the problems nor did he bother to even reply. I mean, what can I do about it? It's the writer's decision. But, I put my opinion out for him so that the meaning of his work could be displayed to a wider audience, whether or not he takes the advice is his choice.

And I guess I didn't think about the difference between expertise and interest. I've always thought that they coincide. Like if I were an expert at poetry, it feels natural for me to enjoy poetry. Hm, never looked at it your angle. What happens if you get an NTR fanatic and does terrible reviews and pays little to no attention to the other meanings of a story? D:

Edit: Goddamn Mibu, now you make too much sense. I concede on the grammar now; you're probably right. If something has too many mistakes, then it's not worth the read (well I guess its more like, 'it's too hard to read so just skip it'). Harsh, but I guess it's true.

Indeed that's right, but what I'm stressing out is for like when someone enforces a way for a writer to improve when it's barely even constructive at all towards the writer itself, without thinking on whether what he say will actually benefit the author. Put it simply, an ass...and I'm an example of some of the assholes here or at least I used to be~

Yup again you got it, a one-point expertise doesn't mean he excels in everything else

Which brings me to my point: grammatical mistakes and typo should only be pointed out and not affect the judgment in any way. Just some mistakes and suddenly your opinion of the piece changes, then you have to be a terrible judge. Too much mistakes, why are you reading it at all? Or rather, HOW do you read it?

I second that. However, grammar is important in order to improve. If you get graded for bad grammar, then learn from it ^^ I don't see it as a negative much, I just want my stories to be enjoyed and understood

Inb4 English classes when you forgot to write the correct tenses



Grammar is a stiff way to put it, I say writing structure. Even if you got a perfect grammar that doesn't always mean the structure will naturally flow instead of being boring, awkward, and mechanically placed texts just to appear correct~

'HOW?!' You ask? Obviously with mad skillz. But, yeah, I've come to an agreement with you. See! 'Tis why you are legendary~!

Psh, now I need some of those legends to push me into actual writing. I miss comments on my own works.

Okay here's a simple overlook. Which one did you prefer

1. Man I need to place the tense right, how about the compound....man..

2. How do I make this look more readable so the readers could understand the story better?

Your call.



Go see an old man~

FUSION! What tense should I use so that the meaning of my story is more understandable? Or deeper? Etc etc.

I never payed much attention to that besides at editing to fix some things up. I usually just let the words flow from my mind and do the fixing later, not much edit tho~

I usually use microsoft word 2007 :< but new computer and I lost the cd. So I gotta edit on my own ;n; its so hard.

I think Open Office could do some spellcheck too, try getting one; it's free. Jerry also use that for his daily writings, try asking him about how it works =D

Oh, I forgot to ask, did Jerry enter the contest?

*Naturally proficient at writing to a fair degree* <-- Is what I'm hearing!

I might have been born in the U.S., and English is my first language, but writing didn't come naturally for me. It took me a great deal of my life to learn to write at a readable level. I tried and failed lots and lots and lots. Surprisingly, it was only in high school, where I was drilled the fuck out of in grammar and structure, where I began to write a decent, readable story.

Words don't flow naturally out of me. I generally have to sit there for a long time and think about how I want things structured, how to word things, etc. I enjoy writing, but I enjoy spreading the emotions and feelings and ideals/morals that I put into my writing even more. And to do that, it takes a lot of editing for me. Even for a basic story.

Edit: So no one has predictions on Bastion (on Steam) prices? =[ lol

Lol, of course. His entry was on the hot seats the whole time and I just recently got back from reviewing his~

Ah man. Well, I'm glad he's still on top. I'll get him next time, with a much better entry than what I was entering ^^

Not really proficient I guess. If you're wondering English isn't my first language. And we Indonesian people, many of us had bad English usage and we rarely ever used it on daily basis~

If in any case you're wondering about why it does came out as a habit, I've spent some number of attempts to write random things(in English) that came onto my mind from when I was a little kid at occasions, and when I'm compelled to write stuff I just scribbled on some notebook or randomly type on some word processor. I think it's either Notepad or Wordpad at that time~

So yeah it's been about 10-12 years since I typed my first story ever, inspired from video games. You got the picture...it all come with practice and time and I'm not naturally talented at it, I assure you~

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Hmm yeah I can somehow imagine that, so do you have any problems, even while writing a personal and random stuff at journals?

My advice : try playing Scrabble



I won't stress it much if I were you though, he might be at top and I think his piece was great but there's some stories that I liked better than his. It's only a subjective matter about who's greater than who~