theotherjacob wrote...
America is self sacrificing? Hardly. America is still the number one consumer of nearly everything on the planet. It's hard to claim that america is self sacrificing giving so much to other nations and sharing so much when it sucks every country that it's involved with dry. America is literally robbing the middle east of all oil and not shedding a single tear over it. America doesn't even care that it's started wars since the second world war, pulled all of the troops out and left those places absolutely devistated.
Let's see, let's first start off with Vietnam:
We didn't leave Vietnam worse off, we left Vietnam without accomplishing the goal. And the Vietnamese are certainly *suffering* for that. But irregardless of inept leadership they've seen economic production.
Now we'll go into the Middle East Problem in great detail:
First, this problem actually occurs towards the end of the Second World War. Jewish political gamesmanship allows for the Zionists(at first, a small radical faction which has quickly grown to be the greatest political power in Israel) to politically bargain for and invade Palestine(which was held under British Mandate)
America, which by now has been politically capitulated by the Socio-political-economic Zionist forces lent its hand and credibility to the Balfour Declaration, among other treaties which violated a former American stance of "Self Determinism"
Similarly to the political support for the "creation" of Israel(read: The rape and pilfering of Arabic villages), America actually once held very strong ties with Iran. So what happened with these strong ties? We installed the Shah of Iran, a more "pro"-globalist(though he appeared to have enacted some national legislation). But for the most part, seen as a despot and a tyrant the Shah was overthrown in 1979.
So there you have it, if you want to blame the "West" for Middle Eastern problems, blame our problem child and its political complications. This problem child was supposed to be the "beacon of democracy" in the Middle East.
It has been anything but such. It's started wars against its Arabic neighbors(then put the blame on them). Current Palestinian disposition is to such an extent that the very moment Palestinians were to get aid, the U.S. Senate blocked it! The ones who control aid? Israel, go figure.(Then they want the Palestinians to "pay back" that which belongs to them in the first place!)
And the amount of aid is paltry(at best) compared to the hundred of millions our child state is granted. And does it have to pay it back? Not necessarily.
Yes, independent...right **rolls eyes**
No one wants to start the wars of old, but the political capitulation of the American Nation must end. Neutrality from this one sided relationship would actually folster better relations in the Middle East. Israel would be forced to actually consider a Middle East with its Arabic neighbors as yes, neighbors!
Jerusalem should neither be in Israeli nor Palestinian conrol. Instead, it shall be an Independent Capital or the two sides should choose some other part of the nation for their capitals.
The origin of Jerusalem was to be a religious site, the only way for peace to be established in that area is for it to return and remain that way.
A recent case? Iran!
Israel: *Wahh* You're building nukes
Iran: No we're not and you have no subjective proof of this.
Israel: I say you are, so you are! U.S and Allies, sick em!(because despite millions in military aid and U.S. technology they apparently can't negotiate at the table or even defend its own country apparently.)
Yeah, I'm done. A growing minority of National Americans are done. Including a vast majority of Democrats who were rightfully upset at Netanyahu's postering during a U.S. Election! How can a foreign head of state interfere even remotely with the U.S. Process?
TheotherJacob wrote...
And this is exactly why you should never be in any position of power, why do the middle east and africa hate american so much that they would go to any length to destroy it, we only have to look at america's involvement in EVERY war for the last 50-60 years. America needs to take some responsibility for it's actions in the world and stop hiding behind it's nation pride like some cowerd under their blankets afraid of the monsters under the bed.
I already referenced the history of America's wars(at least the 19th century) and
most of the political contusing forces in those regions are the result of Americans not completing the task, or simply being unable to(see: Vietnam)
The Taliban took hold in Afghanistan and the Opium trade exploded. For all of our "assistance" in Pakistan, we hold about as much shaky ground with absolutely no way to reform those nationalities.
As much as you'd like to espouse nonsense that American "military dominance" is to blame for the world's poverty, that sadly isn't true. We've longed for these dependent 2nd and 3rd world nationalities to develop! They just can't!
No one would like these nationalities to develop more than I(or other first world political leaders). No one would like to see these cultural groups(and specifically, the individuals among them) to for once develop, have a sense of stability, respect and earning power more than I.
The current state of affairs is grossly unacceptable, where these nationalities and these despotic individuals have become leeches on the American Way of Life.(And in general, the European World)
The best thing for America, for Europe, for the World is to declare our neutrality
from these troubled areas and these troubled peoples. They're only degenerating
the world at large.
The End Game will be, the religiously-oriented Middle East will fulfill their own Self-Prophecy and burn themselves in a lake of fire. Then, after such a said war and a few decades later, the Middle East will finally modernize.
You state that "people like me" are hiding under the covers, allow me to reverse the charge. It's "people like you" who still cling to a false notion of "Multiculturalism"(without recognition of whether these cultures could even mesh together to begin with) who hide under the covers.
Look at your own Quebec in Canada.
The Quebec people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Multiculturalism is such a blessing!
Multiculturalism is not "beautiful", it's an affront to every living Human Being. Including those minorities who love their culture so much as to enforce it on others.
Individuality will eventually lead to cooperation, which will eventually lead to a united world. But a forced collective(IE: Multiculturalism) is doomed to fail from the start.
You cannot have a "diverse yet inclusive" society.
The only reality of Multiculturalism would be those cultures and those people who can naturally coexist. Even those cultures which did not blend, through third party relations with cultures that it did blend with would eventually join the world.
You don't have to have A+B to equal C. You can have "A+ Partial B" to eventually equal C. Through cooperation, individual will and natural alliances is the ideal world.
Our current model is a blatant lie, a lie that you tell yourself so that you can sleep peacefully and look away from the "monster" known as reality.
TheotherJacob wrote...
Western civilization is imperfect and a horribly chaotic, unjust, bias and corrupt place to be and take part in. Where money controls everything, nobody gives a shit about their neighbours, and your rights can be taken away at a whim. Where the government constantly tracks everything you do, everything you say for the point of "national security". Nobody would want to have anything like western society because it's broken.
Did I just get done saying our society was corrupted? I think I did. As such, to infer that the current state of affairs in America are even acceptable or even American in any way or shape or fashion is so false as to be misleading.
Yes, the things you state are the current state of affairs in the Homeland. Frankly, the Founders never intended nor did they desire for a plutocracy in the homeland. However, that's to their mistake of creating a Constitutional Republic(and that, the Republic wasn't affirmed in Law.) The only extent to which they did so, was the Supreme Court and the naivety that the Court would uphold Law.
And I think I've said countless times that Americans in general have politically neutered themselves. I've also said that these are the consequences: Rights being taken away under the guise of "National Security", being tracked, etc. Not only have we politically neutered ourselves but we can't even look outside of the box.
It's not that the third parties are unelectable, it's partially due to corruption in funding as you point out. But it's mostly because of such a centralized "political viewpoint"(insofar as is it political? Or mere incompetence to take the first choice available to you? I prefer to choose the latter in my political analysis. I believe Americans to be politically unintelligent.)
Americans in general tend to attach common denominators(such as "Freedom of speech", or "minority rights" or "conservatism") to political parties(or groups) for this reason(and this reason alone), an ignorant American voter will pick his/her "choice" of Democrat or Republican.
Of course, this same ignorant imbecile is going to be naturally disappointed irregardless of his/her choice. Because above all, the American was stupid enough to believe that either party represented any such ideal to begin with.
Actions speak to results, and the actions of either party doesn't represent the American People.
(See: The Gang of 8). Adoption isn't a wide spread practice(or an openly endorsed one) but we can bring in illegal aliens! The vast majority of Americans in some form, think of this as a good idea!
If Americans made the logical correlation between "More Illegals=less jobs for their children", the policy would naturally reverse. For my part, I'm not heartless and I understand the difficulties that would come with deporting all 11 million of them.
So I'll go with a split, an analysis of the illegals in the country and we'll cherry pick the most devoted, the most capable of the bunch. Say, 5-6 million at best. The other 5-6 million can go kick rocks for entering the country illegally!
If it's found that none of them are sufficiently capable of becoming a Nationalized American, then we'll deport them all. It'll just take a longer time then if it were a shorter number.
But as is the case with Globalization, I'm not sacrificing the jobs of my future children for someone who was neither born here, nor respects our laws and convictions. They should attempt to cultivate Mexico, and/or their independent lands(The Carribeans for example are a great place. They should continue working on it. They can make a heck of a country if they try)
(The Carribeanese people are the next largest illegal immigrants according to Government statistics. But it's paltry compared to the Mexicans. And heck, legalizing the Carribeanese would be incredibly simple an do able. Since we have proof they can cultivate something)
TheotherJacob wrote...
Because dropping the atomic bombs on japan was not considered genocide despite the fact that hundreds of thousands were killed, innocent women, children and men who had nothing to do with this war.
Except, among English Scholars and the American Public this is still an ongoing debate
So much for a heartless and evil people that bombed civilians
In addition, it was after Hiroshima and Nagasaki that the U.S. officially took the position of Nuclear Non-proliferation. Treaties have been enacted world wide, mostly under U.S. Guidance.
We're committed to the idea that a nuclear weapon shouldn't be fired again, as the ones who fired the first and hopefully the last ones in Human History.
If you want me to call it Genocide, I'll call it Genocide. But we didn't know the impact of the nuclear weapon at the time. In fact, many military experts didn't even think the bomb would go off.
TheotherJacob wrote...
This is percisely the reason why none of your opinions and comments will ever be unbias and balanced. You are an american nationalist, the exact same people all the great minds in human history have been trying to fight against. But it's completely obvious who makes up the american nationalists if you even slightly read the news about america, skin heads, kkk, neo-nazi's, red necks, racists, warmongers, republicans. The right wing machine in full action.
Do you like generalization? The KKK is dead.(Offically so anyway, mind you there may be a few hundred "supporters"). Skin heads and "Neo-Nazis" in my mind aren't even politically active. Nor did they understand the political concepts behind Hitler's Germany.
Far from a racial outlook, Hitler had a revolutionary(today, it'd be modern outlook). Unfortunately for the rest of the world, this outlook would be clouded by the social prejudice at the time. Born at a later point in history, Hitler would be a political genius and was dubbed as such up until 1936.
National Socialism, or Fascism is the ideal towards the solution of integrating Human Society. By recognizing Human Individualism, with a mutually collective will. You don't even have to call it National Socialism or Fascism.
Europe, in general has always strived for this unification of Human Souls.
I recognize the flaws in what occurred at the time, but I also recognize the greatest political machinery ever formulated in world history that once united all of Europe. It can unite the world, as long as it recognizes individual communities and their value.
Also, you're incorrect. the Founders were unabashedly Nationalist. Not to the Crown but to the English Colonies which they belonged too. Alexander the Great, Napoleon, etc. All great leaders throughout history were Nationalist.
Abraham Lincoln was Nationalist in spite of the Civil War and in fact integration with the South is proof of such. He could've just let the South off(which would have impoverished the South possibly for decades if not for all eternity).
Honest Abe strengthened and revitalized the Republic, making him one of our greatest commanders in chief ever. Thomas Jefferson spat to the British/International Elitists who demanded that we become serfs to their banking system.
To be a Nationalist, is to defend a Nation from a system of subjugation that has tried to enslave Humanity for as long as it existed.