U.S.A Opinion

As a resident of the USA, I can say that this place is tolerable and pleasant enough. But then again, I'm not starving, I can not understand that viewpoint entirely. So far in my life, I am pretty damn fortunate. I just keep on living my life in California and nothing really happens to me. I'm just living life. Politics is extremely money based in America. Politicians need funds to keep themselves in office and therefore bend their knees to interest groups and big corporations. I'm pretty neutral but I've heard that governments such as Switzerland operate in an entirely different way and I would definitely want to visit that place sometime.

When the E.U passes a law it supersedes any law in their member states. I recommend you read up on the Lisbon Treaty.

F.Y.I the first president of the Commission of the European Economic Community, which became the E.U was Walter Hallstein was a nazi. So the fact that the E.U was created by Fascists and they followed what the Nazis planned to do after they won WW2 I will compare them.

And this is strictly for you but please refrain from posting when you know not of what you post.

Really that hardly happens and any country can back out when they want. It's a cooperation by free will everyone has his influence and everyone can leave when he wants, how is that opression.


Really where do you get this crap he was just a man serving his country like a lot of Germans that doest make them nazi's. With that reasoning they should have shot every german soldier.
This man did a lot of things to bring peace and prosperity to Europe.
You have illusions in your head, you talk like a brainwashed american living during the cold war scared of Communisme and fascisme. Your mindset is chocking to any cooperation and it's this mentallity that leads to war.

The EU started as old enemies shaking hands and going towards a better future together, now thats an precious idea that should not be lost by the fictions of some scared fool.

I'm guessing you're atheist. There's nothing wrong with believing in a religion friend.

No it's fine wasn't about you personally, I just thought it was ironic as I used this as an example a lot in this topic.
Still I think you should grab life by the balls if you believe in something that can help you go forward it also means it could hold you back.

Hallstein was a law professor in Nazi Germany the youngest in fact

"One of the most important laws (in occupied European countries) is the †˜Protection Law of German Blood and Honor’….” -Walter Hellstein 1939

http://www.eu-facts.org/en/background/dark_roots_europe_lecture.html



Again you hide your fascist ways under the guise of peace and prosperity and make hysteria over claims that I'm scared of communism and socialism.

You have zero understanding of the mindset in 1939 literaly zero.





You let your head be filled with idiotic propaganda I tell you thi is cold war mentallity you need to drop. People were just as scarred of communism in he cold war thinking they could be bombed anyday all while the soviet union was struggling to survive and in no shape to take over the word.

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1.) I have plenty my grandfather was a German solider from 38 to 45 and he'll be the first to tell you behind closed doors that the German people supported the nazis and only when they saw the writing on the wall did they stop supporting them.

2.)You deny the facts that are in front of you and that can be found with a quick trip to google or wikipedia. You my good sir are a brainwashed shill and there is no use in responding to you any further.

You have zero understanding of the mindset in 1939 literaly zero.

I have plenty my grandfather was a German solider from 39 to 45 and he'll be the first to tell you behind closed doors that the German people supported the nazis and only when they saw the writing on the wall did they stop supporting them.






You guys are really off topic here -.-

I'm a US citizen by birth, born in the UK to an American mother and living in the States for the past fourteen years. In my time here, I've come to develop quite strong opinions about the country.

First off, I want to deflect accusations that I'm just some 'murika hatin' commie shittalking the US because it's cool by saying that there are good things about the country. The university system, once you get past the outrageous costs that force people into debt for years, is probably the best in the world. I rather like that (formally, anyway) they don't have dumb aristocratic titles that should have been abolished years ago. It's one of the most diverse countries in the world, and by virtue of being one of the largest the US has some spectacular landscapes. And petrol is less expensive here, which if I drove would probably be a big fucking deal. Plus, American women love my accent so that's great for me I guess.


However, anyone who thinks that the US is the best in everything is, quite frankly, delusional. The US has some absolutely massive flaws, and while every country has flaws, and living here I'm probably exposed to the US's flaws more than any other country's except maybe the UK's, a lot of these flaws dwarf what many other countries face.

I'll list some of my main gripes with the country here:

-An absolutely barbaric healthcare system. This is just despicable to me. The US is probably the only first-world where people literally die in the streets because they cannot afford healthcare. How can anyone find this acceptable? Obamacare was a step in the right direction, but it's still not nearly enough.

-I mentioned previously how ridiculous university costs are. While this is also a problem in the UK (thanks, David Cameron!), in the US it's by far the worst. No one should have to go into massive debt in order to get an education. Countries such as Germany and Sweden either have no or very low tuition fees, why can't we?

-The social stratification and wealth inequality here is probably the worst in the developed world. Combined with completely inadequate social services means that the ever-increasing amount of people in poverty are barely able to survive (and sometimes not even then), while the rich continue to get richer. If you're rich, living in the US is probably really fucking great. But if you're not, then it can be arduous at best.

-The Republicans. I'm not gonna mince words, they're batshit insane. I live in New England, so thankfully they're not that common over here. But seeing what they're like on the federal level, and seeing what things are like in states where they DO have power like Texas and Alabama, it scares the shit out of me that about half the people in the country vote for them. In the UK (and everywhere else in Europe), the Republicans are considered far-right extremists.

-Don't like either of the two parties? Then it sucks to be you! The system is rigged so that it will always favour two parties and that third parties will not have a chance, so you can either vote for the lesser of two evils or vote for a hopeless candidate. The solution would be to abolish the electoral college (which is also dumb and should have been abolished aeons ago) as well as the first-past-the-post system and institute a system of proportional representation instead. But that will not happen, because both parties benefit from the system as it is now and will not change it.

-The US is the only country in the developed world where "creationism" is still taught as an "alternative" to actual science, at least in some states.


There's plenty more I could list, but it's getting late here and I'm tired, and I think this post is rather long as it is.

Do I hate the US? Eh, I wouldn't say that. But I'm not exactly a huge fan.

You guys are really off topic here -.-[/quote]


Just showing him how the E.U is fascist and has Nazi roots. It ties into what we were discussing and whatnot

I'd have to agree.

I personally was born and raised in Canada, now my mothers side of the family, including my grandmother, and my eldest sister were born and raised in America, and my grandmother has only moved to Canada within the last 6 years, and they all think that Canada is better.

I mean we have our issues too yes, all countries and nations do, but as far as I know the states come up with some pretty fucked up shit, like honestly the government is cracked, though so is Canada's, I've heard so many stories about children being kicked out of school for simple things like their hair being one shade TOO unnatural after her hair being the same for two years, other children like a first grader I think who got suspended for having a small mohawk.. kids not being given their diploma's because they did or said something that was unliked.

Small tiny things like that, definitely make a place look like shit. I mean that's also JUST the tip of the iceberg too.

All I'm saying is I think that there are FARRRRRR better places than the states, and I personally don't think the states has really done that much for other places in the world. America isn't the worst place, but it is FAR from being the best.

My dad and my dads side of the family were all born in america. They also would say all the time that canada is a much better country, it offers virtually all the same freedoms, more security and many other benefits. I've argued with people about free health care, and almost all of them that are american will be quick to point out canada's system calling it crap and that it doesn't work. But that just isn't true. Almost all of those things said are exaggerated, and least to mentioned, virtually no canadian would ever give up their free health care. At least in canada there is a sense of civic duty where you grow up with the compasion to look out for your fellow human being.

I completely agree.

One of my biggest issues with America though is that they are unfair, they are still so ignorant against gays still.. like come on it's fucking 2013.. I think being kicked out of a restaurant or not being able to get a job because you are homosexual is absolutely belligerent.
Also their politics are way too highly powered/backed up by/using religion, and that is not fair, and just completely stupid.

Now I totally disagree with that statement about the U.S not doing that much for other countries being soldiers are being used to deploy food and support to people in need throughout Africa, Afghanistan, and etc. Hell, American soldiers is saving lives in other countries they need to help save this economy from destruction.

SO you mean to tell me you invaded Irak to feed people? Ok I can see why the US had to go in on afghanistan but what a collosal cluster fuck have they made of it? Your wars make people suffer more then actually help because the helping is never the motive so it's not priority. Where was this helping military when millions of people got slaughtered in Rwanda?
The US has always had a way of picking fights that would benefit them and then try to look look the saviour of the world. This has been the case since WW1 there is no war wich the US fought for any other reason then that it benefit them greatly.

I suppose you think that you helpen the people in Vietnam aswell.

Pretty much all US interventions in other countries for the past half century, and longer than that even, have been either imperialist, a colossal clusterfuck, or both.

A lot of the reason Latin America has so many problems is because the US has been fucking with it for so long. Don't act like the US is some heroic saviour helping out those brown people out of the goodness of their heart, because that couldn't be further from the truth.

I could not have said it better myself! It's not like they asked for your help, the US just barged in THINKING they were helping. It was none of their business, just another excuse to go to war. Not saying that was everyones motive, but that's all it's been.

Actually, historically the U.S Public was against war before being dragged in it.

WWI: Woodrow Wilson brings the American People into the war as "the war to end all wars." Between this and the Federal Reserve, it's without question to any U.S Historian that Wilson was the worst president in U.S History.

WWII: Roosevelt pulls a Wilson, first in giving Lend-lease aid to Britain. As well as agitating Japan, this agitation would lead to the Pearl Harbor attacks which
then brought America into the war. Americans preached neutrality stronger here, then they did even a decade prior(WWI)

Vietnam: Nixon was the most corrupt U.S. President in America's history, forget Watergate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k The Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened.

Iraq(Desert Storm and Part II from 2001-2012): This is actually a bipartisan deal(despite Democrats not wanting to owe up to that part). Mostly in response to the Rhwanda tragedy, which we didn't "intervene"(because we were too busy bombing Yugoslavia). Blue Dog "Democrats" didn't want to "risk" a Saddam with "chemical" weapons, with the pro-hawkish Bush and the Neo Cons in power it gave them the cover to go ahead with it.

The truth is, after initial resistance(up to Vietnam) and the sometimes climatic showdown that comes when the people express their views to the government came a development which the Founders feared: Americans became apathetic to war.

More accurately, Americans are apathetic to political existence altogether. I mean, if it's only going to result in bloodshed from time to time why bother? Americans valued peace over security, but only a politically aware populace can truly have both peace and security. Through applied knowledge and elected representatives who are qualified to heed 99% of America's wishes, not just 1%.

This is a basic detail of America's war history, the military-industrial-complex and its lobbyists have traditionally sabotaged a neutral nation. Because of the existence of lobbyists, the "international responsibility", etc. Americans simply decided to exercise their neutrality from politics itself, which was the wrong response.

We should have ever more resolutely stated our neutrality to the bitter end, and we should have fought for our rights to live, to work and to hold a strong national defense. To a small extent, we succeeded in removing the draft but the Selective Service(which all college students and HS Graduates are required to enlist in) exists for the sole purpose of the reenactment of the draft.

I hope you do and I'll be cheering you on!