Osananajimi wa Daitouryou -My Girlfriend is the President-

Oh I didn't really meant that much but well lol.

Talking about *That method of licensing* in the end it's just business, what's wrong with business wanting to make money with the most profitable route available? JAST has the ability to publish, and they offered the Osadai's staff some money to buy their scripts. And they accepted, knowing that it would pull their release date further, and whats wrong with that? WHat's so wrong about getting translated official english release with the most fastest and efficient and profitable way possible for a company that would benefit the creators and the translation team?

But yeah, if it's crediting the right people. Yes, JAST would be the one get credited, but didnt you see the Osadai's staff already *sold* that privilege to JAST anyway? No problem here I'm sure.

All parties Alcot+Osadai Staff+JAST is happy, where's the unethical?

But I'm half sure that this wouldn't become another Demonbane issue, the engine is Kirikiri so they wouldn't have problems like Demonbane. I wouldn't even be surprised if this get released before Demonbane does.

Ethical or not on this seemed to be subjective and different from my view to yours, I don't think it's unethical. But does it suck? Yeah, it does to people anticipating it to be released in the couple few months and then suddenly told they have to wait longer, but that's it, is there anything else that is bad? Nothing else that I can see.
(I'm not the one waiting so I'm not mad! Osadai is pretty crappy <-- biased)

About the crediting off topic,




For your question



Oh hey, one thing slipped my mind that I didnt mention that JAST was pretty shitty at. Previously before the announcement, Jlist (Which is also JAST) has promoted to sell the original Japanese Osadai game with "BUY IT ENGLISH PATCH COMMIN SOON", then this happens. That's pretty sucky and I hope Peter payne snuck it up and give people a refund for false advertisement.

Good points Kai but dirty or not its still business.....So from a businessman's point of view its a pure win.

just to be clear on things.

-I never thought TLwiki as a group. I'm just pointing at "TLwiki" just because it's easier than I have to check and list the members that's responsible for Osadai's TLteam. lol

LOL @ False advertising, since I never once cared to check J-list.

In the end it's all about "Money makes the world go around" again.... As much as I hate it, I can't help to fix it. It's just that for once I really like them to credit the TLteam properly, not just with hard cold cash, but something more valuable in an intangible form... for example like NNL, they get an official partnership with MINORI through MG as a publisher.

And definitely not using these kind of methods. They should do it like what MG do, even though they kinda flunked the Koihime Musou deal. So... Start cooperating from the start

Maybe I should quite majoring in economics.. lol :P

@nekomimi, you should really ask for more money. $50 isn't worth it. Since you have more power to negotiate, since you have the script. You can just refuse to give in and make them pay more.

If they C&D you, it's a lose-lose situation, which is not beneficial if they really wanted your script. it can be a Lose-win situation though if you went rogue and release it anyway, like what NNL did. lol

But Basically, you agreed that JAST is bad and dirty right?

lol, it wouldn't happen anyway.

I dont know about dirty, it's just business as usual. But yeah, not the best company but hey, how many VN localization company there is? They just wanna do business and earn a living, and I dont think they're earning big bucks anyway (VN market is niche). ANd because the market is so small, it's natural to want to save cost.

But in the end, I don't really care that much about them, as I just read japanese stuff straight away if I wanted to.

Here's the 100% beta patch before QC.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HNUK4DQJ

EDIT: Sorry, checked some pages back and saw it posted. But it's better than nothing, game should be translated.

Thank you sooo very much good sir

Oh...for fucks sake, JAST.

First, you fuck me over by making me pre-order Demonbane and then forgetting it exists, and now you license this right before the fan-patch is released?

Fucking hells.

What I'm curious about is why, after all that work, no one on the patch's devteam bothered to anonymously leak the completed patch post QC.

I know I would have.

Le sigh.

Oh, well. Thx lots for the beta link tho', Asianpryde63.

Now we know why this dragged on so much.

JAST must secretly want everyone to boycott 'em if we go by their retarded fuckin behavior.

still meh though.. >_> that's one of the niche-est thing in VNs, cause I can still fap to it even though it's censored... It's like how people can fap to a sex novels that only consist of black words on white paper.

Translation >>> uncensored

I rather have more translated VNs, rather than many uncensored cheap nukige.
If we keep on revolving over "uncencored" stuff is better than the original, then we'll end up with more bad nukige, like one of the recent Games JAST did, the cat thingy.

It's nice but don't over-prioritize it.

EDITL

Expected releases is in The first half of 2011

So, it can as fast as January, or as slow June. Or even slower cause of technical or non-technical mishaps "coughdemonbanecough" "coughsumagacough".

You sir, are beyond awesome right now! I wish i could do more then simply REP you for this.

I was about to scream when I swung by to check on the translation to find that announcement. I mean great, they're going to do it officially, I may even buy it then; but after waiting for soooo long! Its just...well I'm sure everyone knows what I mean. O___O

I already screamed when i read that announcement. Made me go nuts in my little room here.

but well, i'm grateful that someone post that beta patch. I too say it's better than nothing. Thanks!

ITT pirates whining about licensing of a product, lol.
At least ya'll should feel happy that someone will buy the game and the original creators will get some munnies.

Think of it as end-point outsourcing.
Unethical or not (not my call to make) JAST made a nice little business move in acquiring the script for a cheaper rate, and what's more the fan-TL team also got paid for it... aaand Alcot gets to make the money it deserves. Who knows, maybe JAST will mention the name of the translators in the product/ website.

tl;dr - this event will level up your patience.

Just because people will buy it does not mean the original creators get anything or much at all. Usually when something is licensed to another company in a foreign country(with no ties to the parent company) all rights and royalties belong to previously mentioned(in this case JAST USA).

My two cents - Alcot ain't gettin' shit since they're not partnered with JAST, or even if they do it's peanuts. The TLwiki Osadai team ain't getting anything other than a small pay check probably. Lastly everyone got trolled.

and you say you are right because [insert source]?

As long as I can play this game in the end, I don't mind waiting. Can someone post the patch when it officially comes out, would really appreciate it.

There won't be a patch. It'll be a whole set-up file. (inb4 people complaining about re-downloading) And don't worry, it'll get uploaded within 1-2 days of available pirated versions.

Meh, I'll just stick with the non QC'd version. Don't feel like waiting.