razama wrote...
Plus people who are being accussed of trolling when they are just teasing - and even if they were trolling or are just accussed of it the entire thread turns into a complaint about trolling and who is and isn't a troll.
New people are going to always join a forum, they bring life to a forum. It is up to the leaders and elders of a forum to set the tone for a forum, and if the tone is changing for the worst then part of that blame lies on the older members of the forum.
Half the problem I see is that FAKKU! lets go of many trolling instances and it's almost become a standard for people to troll just to get laughs around. I look down on this, but the community says otherwise. Spam/trolling shouldn't be tolerated to the extent that FAKKU! does, but again, most people would probably disagree with me on that point. My sticking point is that even if trolling brings the "lulz", it doesn't mean it is appropriate.
As for the elder bit, it's true that we should be setting a better example for everyone else, but unfortunately we can only do so much, especially when us elders and elites have the tendency to fight AMONGST ourselves. I created a satire rep thread in direct response to another thread since I knew it was a frowned-upon action. I got the positive feedback, but also I got a shitload of heat and drama because some people didn't get or appreciate my points. I'm trying to do my part in setting what's good forum netiquette and what isn't in particular to FAKKU!, but I can only do so much and with limited support. Hell, half the time I look like a white crusader trying to enforce his view points on how to run FAKKU! - I probably do, can't deny that. But I do it in the best interests of FAKKU!, and it's not just me - many other users have been trying to do things for the greater good of FAKKU! only to be turned in by members of the same damn community - there used to be a camadarie between FAKKU! members, but it's kinda been waylaid and put to the side next to our egos and prejudices. Honestly, if any changes are going to be implemented, it'll come from the administrative staff and heavier modding.
Another couple of things to note is that most user activity occurs in two sections: Random and IB, and IB moreso than any other section. I mentioned it before, and I'll mention it again; I think it's a sad, sad fact that so much activity occurs in IB, but it's like that in any forum I think. I also heard from others that User Uploads section is still falling under attack by flaggers... another problem in making this site too loosely run because there are always idiots and fags who try to take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone else.
The oldfags of my 08 generation and older are getting fewer and fewer. Almost all of the 07 generation are gone, and the 08 generation is dying out. 09 came, and we have people who post irrelevant, uninteresting, dumb, and whatever-kind-of-adjective-I-can-think-of threads/posts, as well as an increase in trolls, faggots, flaggers, and overall hostility and stupidity. I don't have a solution for this, and I don't think anyone will either other than something coming from the top, but even so that's a superficial fix that doesn't solve the underlying problems. It's a much sadder reality we live in, but unfortunately that's how reality works.
edit: Another problem is that
nobody listens to each other, or bother commenting on someone else's opinion and plow ahead with his or her own opinion.