[Locked] What is a troll?
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By your logic and what you've said in Chatroll it seems to me that you think that I'm a troll... what makes you believe that?
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Yorozuya wrote...
By your logic and what you've said in Chatroll it seems to me that you think that I'm a troll... what makes you believe that?Wait, you do this?
Waar wrote...
A troll is someone who actively seeks chaos and instability, often resorting to childish behavior like name calling/personal attacks to cause negative emotions among one or multiple users on a forum.The real trolls are those of you who consistently bash and hate on specific users while providing nothing for this community; no names but you know who you are. People who simply get behind their friends without thinking of the problem at hand, those who attack based on their personal opinion and feelings without thinking about what's being said; you are the true trolls.
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Yorozuya wrote...
Spoiler:
By your logic and what you've said in Chatroll it seems to me that you think that I'm a troll... what makes you believe that?
But my good sir, thou must be a troll.
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Rbz wrote...
Yorozuya wrote...
By your logic and what you've said in Chatroll it seems to me that you think that I'm a troll... what makes you believe that?Wait, you do this?
Waar wrote...
A troll is someone who actively seeks chaos and instability, often resorting to childish behavior like name calling/personal attacks to cause negative emotions among one or multiple users on a forum.The real trolls are those of you who consistently bash and hate on specific users while providing nothing for this community; no names but you know who you are. People who simply get behind their friends without thinking of the problem at hand, those who attack based on their personal opinion and feelings without thinking about what's being said; you are the true trolls.
I've never done any of that nor have I ever tried to piss people off for my own enjoyment, but in Chatroll when I wasn't there Waar started using me and M as examples of users on the forums as being trolls.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.
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Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.I trust my sources more than I trust you.
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Stopping with the troll name-calling, I don't think everyone will see eye-to-eye on this issue. People call other people trolls, others call them trolls, etc. etc.
What I don't like is the fact that some people might be calling other trolls on a lack of information or first-hand experience. I say TMS was not a troll simply because I was never on the receiving end of this trolling, nor did I feel any realy antagonistic intent in his posts. Then you have upstarts calling others trolls with no basis and no argument - to them, I say shut your mouths.
edit: On a separate note,
For what it's worth, I'd trust Waar over you. Now, Waar may have created this thread in an attempt to see the possible reasons why anyone would label each other a troll, and also see how others view himself. But objectively speaking, Waar's been around for ages at FAKKU!, and while he likes to get into arguments, they're not without basis, and he has contributed much to FAKKU!'s development. And like all other members, he is subject to FAKKU!'s rules and such, and the admin staff are not afraid to bring the hammer down for people who crossed the line too far. If I remember correctly, even Waar was on probation once for doing something which I forgot the specifics, but he knows he went too far and apologized for it. He's been less abrasive than before and helps out more often in the community, without a doubt. Perhaps he rubs people the wrong way - deal with it.
I find that to continue this topic, I need to defend Waar since he's at the forefront of much of this discussion. I don't need to suck his e-penis to be a judge of character, but he's not a troll, and he didn't get where he was by being a troll either.
What I don't like is the fact that some people might be calling other trolls on a lack of information or first-hand experience. I say TMS was not a troll simply because I was never on the receiving end of this trolling, nor did I feel any realy antagonistic intent in his posts. Then you have upstarts calling others trolls with no basis and no argument - to them, I say shut your mouths.
edit: On a separate note,
M2991 wrote...
I trust my sources more than I trust you.For what it's worth, I'd trust Waar over you. Now, Waar may have created this thread in an attempt to see the possible reasons why anyone would label each other a troll, and also see how others view himself. But objectively speaking, Waar's been around for ages at FAKKU!, and while he likes to get into arguments, they're not without basis, and he has contributed much to FAKKU!'s development. And like all other members, he is subject to FAKKU!'s rules and such, and the admin staff are not afraid to bring the hammer down for people who crossed the line too far. If I remember correctly, even Waar was on probation once for doing something which I forgot the specifics, but he knows he went too far and apologized for it. He's been less abrasive than before and helps out more often in the community, without a doubt. Perhaps he rubs people the wrong way - deal with it.
I find that to continue this topic, I need to defend Waar since he's at the forefront of much of this discussion. I don't need to suck his e-penis to be a judge of character, but he's not a troll, and he didn't get where he was by being a troll either.
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Waar
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M2991 wrote...
Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.I trust my sources more than I trust you.
not sure how who you trust matters...
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Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.It wasn't a lie because I read what you said in the discussion you were having with Coco and KLoWn, unless your saying that what you guys talked about were lies. I don't really want to get into an argument since I gotta go pretty soon, but I fail to see why you would think that I would be a troll. And as for what I think of you, yes I would consider you to be a troll because there were quite a few times where you did certain things that would be considered as douchebaggery.
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Waar
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Yorozuya wrote...
Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.It wasn't a lie because I read what you said in the discussion you were having with Coco and KLoWn, unless your saying that what you guys talked about were lies. I don't really want to get into an argument since I gotta go pretty soon, but I fail to see why you would think that I would be a troll. And as for what I think of you, yes I would consider you to be a troll because there were quite a few times where you did certain things that would be considered as douchebaggery.
yeah, you got me; you never act like a douche and I'm the personification of evil... lol. Do you even ask yourself why I'm respected by so many of the older members? Grow up, I told you to leave this playground bullshit out of the thread.
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Waar wrote...
Yorozuya wrote...
Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.It wasn't a lie because I read what you said in the discussion you were having with Coco and KLoWn, unless your saying that what you guys talked about were lies. I don't really want to get into an argument since I gotta go pretty soon, but I fail to see why you would think that I would be a troll. And as for what I think of you, yes I would consider you to be a troll because there were quite a few times where you did certain things that would be considered as douchebaggery.
yeah, you got me; you never act like a douche and I'm the personification of evil... lol. Do you even ask yourself why I'm respected by so many of the older members? Grow up, I told you to leave this playground bullshit out of the thread.
It's called banking on good will. Trying to have one's cake and eat it too.
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Waar wrote...
M2991 wrote...
Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.I trust my sources more than I trust you.
not sure how who you trust matters...
Nor am I. But you did still say what you said, and it will be in the CR archives.
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Waar wrote...
Yorozuya wrote...
Waar wrote...
seems someone has told you a lie, I said you and M were two users who will never see me as anything more than a troll... perhaps you need new sources.It wasn't a lie because I read what you said in the discussion you were having with Coco and KLoWn, unless your saying that what you guys talked about were lies. I don't really want to get into an argument since I gotta go pretty soon, but I fail to see why you would think that I would be a troll. And as for what I think of you, yes I would consider you to be a troll because there were quite a few times where you did certain things that would be considered as douchebaggery.
yeah, you got me; you never act like a douche and I'm the personification of evil... lol. Do you even ask yourself why I'm respected by so many of the older members? Grow up, I told you to leave this playground bullshit out of the thread.
Where did you get the idea that you were the personification of evil?... -_-; Also I didn't say that I never acted like a douche, I'm a nice guy so the only times that I would get PO'd and act like an asshole would be towards someone who is an asshole.
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@Yorozuya: Because many people who've been on the receiving end of his wit and sharp tongue felt that they're being trolled. It may seem that I'm defending Waar, but as far as I'm concerned, much of the arguments started by him were made for good reason, and he backs himself up. I'm sure that he's acted like a troll on several occasions, but he's mellowed out since then. Unless you want to convince him and say you are a troll, drop it - CR isn't a reliable way to determine who's talking about what due to its chaotic nature and multiple conversations that go at once.
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Unsigned wrote...
This Thread Was Made To Troll, Seeing As That's What You Guys Are Doing Right Now.Minna, this has become a troll hide away.
It seems that the "trolls" hath gathered and made haste towards debate of their internet humanity.
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g-money wrote...
@Yorozuya: Because many people who've been on the receiving end of his wit and sharp tongue felt that they're being trolled. It may seem that I'm defending Waar, but as far as I'm concerned, much of the arguments started by him were made for good reason, and he backs himself up. I'm sure that he's acted like a troll on several occasions, but he's mellowed out since then. Unless you want to convince him and say you are a troll, drop it - CR isn't a reliable way to determine who's talking about what due to its chaotic nature and multiple conversations that go at once.It doesn't matter to me whether you want to defend him or not since you're probably one of the users on Fakku who do respect him. I'm not just trying to use Chatroll for an example because yeah I know how chaotic it can get, I was just kind of going by what I was told when I got on in the morning and what I read from the archives. Also you were gone for a while so you didn't see any of the other stuff that happened so honestly I don't believe that Waar has mellowed out since whenever. I only just started getting active since the beginning of this year, so w/e happened before that I don't really know anything about.
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Oh jeez.
I don't think you're a troll Waar, I haven't been here as long as some, but to me a Troll is someone who brings nothing worth noting forward, and only tries to piss people off... It's an entirely different story when you are opinionated and that pisses people off...
Jesus christ people, not everyone who holds an opposite view to you is "trolling" you. This is so silly, really.
Whatever to be back on topic, I've already said what I consider a troll to be, though that is pretty vague, I guess the thing that would separate a troll from someone just having fun, would be the motive. A person goofing off is, just that, goofing off, doesn't make them a troll per se.
To be fair trolling doesn't bother me so much in and of it self, it's just annoying that they ruin good topics b taking whatever enjoyment the users having the topic were having by being, well, stupid.
I don't think you're a troll Waar, I haven't been here as long as some, but to me a Troll is someone who brings nothing worth noting forward, and only tries to piss people off... It's an entirely different story when you are opinionated and that pisses people off...
Jesus christ people, not everyone who holds an opposite view to you is "trolling" you. This is so silly, really.
Whatever to be back on topic, I've already said what I consider a troll to be, though that is pretty vague, I guess the thing that would separate a troll from someone just having fun, would be the motive. A person goofing off is, just that, goofing off, doesn't make them a troll per se.
To be fair trolling doesn't bother me so much in and of it self, it's just annoying that they ruin good topics b taking whatever enjoyment the users having the topic were having by being, well, stupid.
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Tranquility wrote...
I don't think you're a troll Waar, I haven't been here as long as some, but to me a Troll is someone who brings nothing worth noting forward, and only tries to piss people off... It's an entirely different story when you are opinionated and that pisses people off...Jesus christ people, not everyone who holds an opposite view to you is "trolling" you. This is so silly, really.
You said it.
@Yorozuya: Either way, I don't believe Waar said that you were a troll, and you aren't a troll in my book. And if he did, either he mistyped it or he showed a lack of judgment that he is usually capable of, which I don't think is the case. Sooo, let bygones be bygones.