[Locked] What is a troll?
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
I'm going to repeat many of my previous points because it seems you lack reading comprehension, at least for this particular thread.
Not the best but I'll try with my stance on this.
Response:
I never said I was innocent; in fact I made a point of saying I wasn't; that my posting is at best a gray area between troll and saint. The Kaho thread didn't contain a single shred of my personal opinion, what makes you think I supported TMS; I didn't even tell him about the thread until it was made. I've never stated where my opinion lies on the matter of catch phrases. Just because TMS is my friend doesn't mean I agree with him about everything; I think for myself. I don't remember you 'proving me wrong" but if you have some recollection I'm sure it's accurate and not influenced by your personal feelings towards me at all... Do you honestly believe I have some sort of magical power to make people attack my targets, or jump to my side any time I debate/argue? Am I some sort of sith master bending the will of weaker individuals? Or is it more likely that I simply make reasoned logical posts which convinces users to agree with my opinion. Are you soo blind by your personal rage towards me that you can't admit that perhaps people are doing it because I'm persuasive, or my points make sense? Why not post my opinions? why not make threads? That's what a forum is, sharing opinions and ideas; no matter how taboo or controversial. If you can't deal with people having different opinions than your own, or doing things you don't like perhaps you should play single player only.
As for what I say to my friends I really don't see how that is any of your business; if someone wants me to stop all they have to do is ask me; if they want you to white knight for them I'm sure they'll ask you as well. As the jokes aren't for you I don't particularly care if you think they're getting old. When did I react poorly to a gay joke? pretty sure me and mike having been talking about fucking each other for a while now. BTW Space, you're gay.
Response:
I started with 3 pm's to hime first, none of which met any response. Members of the staff had also expressed their opinions of the volume of spam posted but were unwilling or unable to do anything. My methodology led me to the only option left open to me; expressing my opinions in a public way. If you can't deal with people expressing their opinion then you should leave. I broke no rules and therefor the staff had no reason to stop me. Again you seem to think that these thread insulted or harmed the users in question; if they felt hurt by it that is a shame but asking someone to post less or asking the community what they think about someone's catchphrase was no insult to them or their character. Again, I have no problem with Kaho or his catchphrase, no need to contact him. As for hime, you're a bit of a hypocrite are you not?
Response:
No, reading something and not posting is not making a contribution to fakku. There is no guarantee those who lurk and post nothing are giving fakku a good reputation, in fact it is more likely that they are those of us who post about fakku's lack of quality scans on places like /b/.
I only back someone up if I believe they are correct, friend or foe. I didn't support either side in the Kaho thread. Again, do you really believe I have my friends just sit and wait for me to say "go get them" in any thread of my choosing? Can you not recognize the difference between blind obedience and being convinced by logic?
Let me ask you, what is the difference between TMS when he agrees with me and 10 people saying they hate stray dog and de-repping him because he snatched a girl prowl wanted to have. I can tell you the only difference is that TMS only speaks up if he agrees with me, the latter jump in no matter what.
I just wanted to point out that how you worded things. It kinda made me feel that you were convincing users that you NEVER did things that you point out other users for. I read the last statement but I feel you are still in denial.
I, too, have joined in the trolling but that was the only regret. I could have ignored the Hime and Kaho threads (where I'm positive that the mood of my posts where completely different in both) but the situation seemed right. I went with what you all did earlier on for friendship, not just the joke. I regret it because it made me not only look like a jackass troll but I made other users turn their perception of me upside down. I mentioned one user to back up evidence.
It's a shame you don't believe me but it really doesn't change anything. No where in my posts does it indicate that I am without fault.
So is your crusade against me all out of gas or are you just getting started? Had you decided to start this crusade a few months ago I'm sure you would have received quite a bit of support but as it stands now I'm a much better person than the villain you paint me out to be, the man I used to be. "Lucky few" how many people do you honestly believe hate me coco? The few you know come out to less than 0.5% of the forum population. I guess we can continue to get off topic once again, I don't mind defending myself but perhaps you should take a step back for a minute; you aren't as innocent as you think.
g-money; I thank you for your support; I know it must be hard coming to my defense as it generally becomes a risk to your own reputation.
Dragoniczer; I thank you for your reply. I do believe this topic is good enough for SD but i knew what would have happened and what did happen. I don't believe the good people of SD would appreciate this drama thread in SD, and it would have turned into drama no matter what... Also, you don't seem to lack intelligence; not sure why you think that. Your post was fairly easy to follow and respond to and I did enjoy reading you opinion. I also look forward to our future encounters, may they be fruitful.
Coco-tan wrote...
Fairly sure I'll get some feedback from this. Not the best but I'll try with my stance on this.
Spoiler:
Response:
Spoiler:
I never said I was innocent; in fact I made a point of saying I wasn't; that my posting is at best a gray area between troll and saint. The Kaho thread didn't contain a single shred of my personal opinion, what makes you think I supported TMS; I didn't even tell him about the thread until it was made. I've never stated where my opinion lies on the matter of catch phrases. Just because TMS is my friend doesn't mean I agree with him about everything; I think for myself. I don't remember you 'proving me wrong" but if you have some recollection I'm sure it's accurate and not influenced by your personal feelings towards me at all... Do you honestly believe I have some sort of magical power to make people attack my targets, or jump to my side any time I debate/argue? Am I some sort of sith master bending the will of weaker individuals? Or is it more likely that I simply make reasoned logical posts which convinces users to agree with my opinion. Are you soo blind by your personal rage towards me that you can't admit that perhaps people are doing it because I'm persuasive, or my points make sense? Why not post my opinions? why not make threads? That's what a forum is, sharing opinions and ideas; no matter how taboo or controversial. If you can't deal with people having different opinions than your own, or doing things you don't like perhaps you should play single player only.
As for what I say to my friends I really don't see how that is any of your business; if someone wants me to stop all they have to do is ask me; if they want you to white knight for them I'm sure they'll ask you as well. As the jokes aren't for you I don't particularly care if you think they're getting old. When did I react poorly to a gay joke? pretty sure me and mike having been talking about fucking each other for a while now. BTW Space, you're gay.
Coco-tan wrote...
Spoiler:
Response:
Spoiler:
I started with 3 pm's to hime first, none of which met any response. Members of the staff had also expressed their opinions of the volume of spam posted but were unwilling or unable to do anything. My methodology led me to the only option left open to me; expressing my opinions in a public way. If you can't deal with people expressing their opinion then you should leave. I broke no rules and therefor the staff had no reason to stop me. Again you seem to think that these thread insulted or harmed the users in question; if they felt hurt by it that is a shame but asking someone to post less or asking the community what they think about someone's catchphrase was no insult to them or their character. Again, I have no problem with Kaho or his catchphrase, no need to contact him. As for hime, you're a bit of a hypocrite are you not?
Coco-tan wrote...
Spoiler:
Response:
Spoiler:
No, reading something and not posting is not making a contribution to fakku. There is no guarantee those who lurk and post nothing are giving fakku a good reputation, in fact it is more likely that they are those of us who post about fakku's lack of quality scans on places like /b/.
I only back someone up if I believe they are correct, friend or foe. I didn't support either side in the Kaho thread. Again, do you really believe I have my friends just sit and wait for me to say "go get them" in any thread of my choosing? Can you not recognize the difference between blind obedience and being convinced by logic?
Let me ask you, what is the difference between TMS when he agrees with me and 10 people saying they hate stray dog and de-repping him because he snatched a girl prowl wanted to have. I can tell you the only difference is that TMS only speaks up if he agrees with me, the latter jump in no matter what.
Coco-tan wrote...
Sorry, I spoilered the whole thing because it was a huge wall of text.I just wanted to point out that how you worded things. It kinda made me feel that you were convincing users that you NEVER did things that you point out other users for. I read the last statement but I feel you are still in denial.
I, too, have joined in the trolling but that was the only regret. I could have ignored the Hime and Kaho threads (where I'm positive that the mood of my posts where completely different in both) but the situation seemed right. I went with what you all did earlier on for friendship, not just the joke. I regret it because it made me not only look like a jackass troll but I made other users turn their perception of me upside down. I mentioned one user to back up evidence.
It's a shame you don't believe me but it really doesn't change anything. No where in my posts does it indicate that I am without fault.
So is your crusade against me all out of gas or are you just getting started? Had you decided to start this crusade a few months ago I'm sure you would have received quite a bit of support but as it stands now I'm a much better person than the villain you paint me out to be, the man I used to be. "Lucky few" how many people do you honestly believe hate me coco? The few you know come out to less than 0.5% of the forum population. I guess we can continue to get off topic once again, I don't mind defending myself but perhaps you should take a step back for a minute; you aren't as innocent as you think.
g-money; I thank you for your support; I know it must be hard coming to my defense as it generally becomes a risk to your own reputation.
Dragoniczer; I thank you for your reply. I do believe this topic is good enough for SD but i knew what would have happened and what did happen. I don't believe the good people of SD would appreciate this drama thread in SD, and it would have turned into drama no matter what... Also, you don't seem to lack intelligence; not sure why you think that. Your post was fairly easy to follow and respond to and I did enjoy reading you opinion. I also look forward to our future encounters, may they be fruitful.
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edibleghost wrote...
Troll is to TMS as Fruit is to blueberry.Why the fuck am i losing rep over this. Whoever's doing it please explain how I'm offending you.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
edibleghost wrote...
edibleghost wrote...
Troll is to TMS as Fruit is to blueberry.Why the fuck am i losing rep over this. Whoever's doing it please explain how I'm offending you.
pointless edible, rep has no meaning when people wield it like children.
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*opens mental lexikon* *yells into the neural network: DEFINITION OF TROLL, PERSONAL, PRONTO!* ... scuse me, too much university stuff regarding the mental lexikon...nvm it.
Troll:
A user, where the outer beauty is not neccassarily alligned with inner values. Usually dribbling on the keyboard in anticipation of the cursing and shouting he hopes to incinarate in the target threat.
Known weaknesses are flames, ignore funktions across several boards and ADMIN / Mod powers.
/End definition
Troll:
A user, where the outer beauty is not neccassarily alligned with inner values. Usually dribbling on the keyboard in anticipation of the cursing and shouting he hopes to incinarate in the target threat.
Known weaknesses are flames, ignore funktions across several boards and ADMIN / Mod powers.
/End definition
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Coco, I've lurked here for a while. I thought you were a cool cat, and then I saw your huge post. Easily the best example of "Haha, I can't actually read, and I use words and phrases that sound cool but I don't know what they mean" I have ever seen. I can't even add anything else, because I'd just be repeating what waar said about how he didn't help TMS at all in that thread; that he only made it.
Anyways, great thread all around.
Anyways, great thread all around.
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edibleghost wrote...
edibleghost wrote...
Troll is to TMS as Fruit is to blueberry.Why the fuck am i losing rep over this. Whoever's doing it please explain how I'm offending you.
I'll return your rep when I can. And pal, you should know by now that a lot of users carry their petty grudges into every thread and use every opportunity they can to shit on members they don't like.
Why do you think I stopped posting in this thread after my first few responses?
It's like the fucking Salem witch-hunts around here. No amount of rational discussion or logic is going to change people's minds. If they're convinced you're a witch, then you're going to burn; and they'll do whatever it takes to see that you do.
