[Locked] What is a troll?
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I don't think you're a troll Waar, I haven't been here as long as some, but to me a Troll is someone who brings nothing worth noting forward, and only tries to piss people off... It's an entirely different story when you are opinionated and that pisses people off...Jesus christ people, not everyone who holds an opposite view to you is "trolling" you. This is so silly, really.
You said it.
@Yorozuya: Either way, I don't believe Waar said that you were a troll, and you aren't a troll in my book. And if he did, either he mistyped it or he showed a lack of judgment that he is usually capable of, which I don't think is the case. Sooo, let bygones be bygones.
I endorse both of these post. Just because someone is curt with you or is opinionated, they are not trolls. I really don't think we have a problem of trolls on this forum - only a problem of a troll witch-hunt. (troll-hunt?)
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g-money wrote...
Tranquility wrote...
I don't think you're a troll Waar, I haven't been here as long as some, but to me a Troll is someone who brings nothing worth noting forward, and only tries to piss people off... It's an entirely different story when you are opinionated and that pisses people off...Jesus christ people, not everyone who holds an opposite view to you is "trolling" you. This is so silly, really.
You said it.
@Yorozuya: Either way, I don't believe Waar said that you were a troll, and you aren't a troll in my book. And if he did, either he mistyped it or he showed a lack of judgment that he is usually capable of, which I don't think is the case. Sooo, let bygones be bygones.
This is what I found, not really convincing since he's just basing it off what I said but I still don't doubt the fact that Waar thinks that me and M are trolls.
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I forgot to add, I don't think you're a troll either Yoro, just clearing that up :) As for the rest, I don't know whether Waar said it or not, but if he did he was mistaken...
I'd also take his word for it if he said he didn't, though.
I'd also take his word for it if he said he didn't, though.
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Coco-tan wrote...
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This Thread Was Made To Troll, Seeing As That's What You Guys Are Doing Right Now.Minna, this has become a troll hide away.
Yup, now that you're here we have the complete set.
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Yorozuya wrote...
This is what I found, not really convincing since he's just basing it off what I said but I still don't doubt the fact that Waar thinks that me and M are trolls.Spoiler:
I dunno, to me, it looks like he's just interpreting your definition of what a troll is and implying that it's too general since it includes you as well. Take it how you want to, but he isn't insinuating that you're a troll, and he and I and everyone else has said that you aren't a troll.
Have we beat the dead horse enough yet?
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g-money wrote...
Yorozuya wrote...
This is what I found, not really convincing since he's just basing it off what I said but I still don't doubt the fact that Waar thinks that me and M are trolls.Spoiler:
I dunno, to me, it looks like he's just interpreting your definition of what a troll is and implying that it's too general since it includes you as well. Take it how you want to, but he isn't insinuating that you're a troll, and he and I and everyone else has said that you aren't a troll.
Have we beat the dead horse enough yet?
Lol sure I'm just trying to convey my point.
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Waar
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my point is your idea of a troll is wrong and too vague, i was saying that your definition of a troll means that you're a troll as well. I was not calling you a troll. Reading comprehension seems to be taking a dive here.
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To have something related to this topic, even though I do not want to do this. A troll would only be a troll to me. Meaning, I see a troll as someone who would bug me. Whether if everyone else thinks of someone else as a troll is none of my concern. If the user/person does not annoy me than I have no ill feelings towards them. Also, there is the fact regarding myself is that I do not let common things bother me.
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I have neglected reading any other post in this topic other than Waar's first post and some answers users have given because I merely did not want too. I apologize for posting without consideration. (_ _)
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To have something related to this topic, even though I do not want to do this. A troll would only be a troll to me. Meaning, I see a troll as someone who would bug me. Whether if everyone else thinks of someone else as a troll is none of my concern. If the user/person does not annoy me than I have no ill feelings towards them. Also, there is the fact regarding myself is that I do not let common things bother me.
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I have neglected reading any other post in this topic other than Waar's first post and some answers users have given because I merely did not want too. I apologize for posting without consideration. (_ _)
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Waar
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I didn't believe it ranked SD materiel, especially with the chances that it would turn into a group a vs group b drama thread.
As for what bothers me; you can see it in every post I make. I'm fairly open and up front with my opinion of these forums; perhaps too open at times. Anyone of my threads which mocks a specific type of thread (zombie threads) indicates my distaste for them when they are posted in excess. As for my view of troll I pointed out that those who don't think for themselves and simply attacked based on imaginary cliques are my major concern. Other than those issues I believe the fakku forums is a pretty spectacular place. You should read more of a thread if you wish to ask a question in the future, but you don't have to.
As for what bothers me; you can see it in every post I make. I'm fairly open and up front with my opinion of these forums; perhaps too open at times. Anyone of my threads which mocks a specific type of thread (zombie threads) indicates my distaste for them when they are posted in excess. As for my view of troll I pointed out that those who don't think for themselves and simply attacked based on imaginary cliques are my major concern. Other than those issues I believe the fakku forums is a pretty spectacular place. You should read more of a thread if you wish to ask a question in the future, but you don't have to.
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Fairly sure I'll get some feedback from this.
Not the best but I'll try with my stance on this.
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I just wanted to point out that how you worded things. It kinda made me feel that you were convincing users that you NEVER did things that you point out other users for. I read the last statement but I feel you are still in denial.
I, too, have joined in the trolling but that was the only regret. I could have ignored the Hime and Kaho threads (where I'm positive that the mood of my posts where completely different in both) but the situation seemed right. I went with what you all did earlier on for friendship, not just the joke. I regret it because it made me not only look like a jackass troll but I made other users turn their perception of me upside down. I mentioned one user to back up evidence.
Not the best but I'll try with my stance on this.
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Sorry, I spoilered the whole thing because it was a huge wall of text.
I just wanted to point out that how you worded things. It kinda made me feel that you were convincing users that you NEVER did things that you point out other users for. I read the last statement but I feel you are still in denial.
I, too, have joined in the trolling but that was the only regret. I could have ignored the Hime and Kaho threads (where I'm positive that the mood of my posts where completely different in both) but the situation seemed right. I went with what you all did earlier on for friendship, not just the joke. I regret it because it made me not only look like a jackass troll but I made other users turn their perception of me upside down. I mentioned one user to back up evidence.
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I can't comment much since I wasn't around for the Kaho's "Ruuu" thread, but I was here when HimeTakamura was spamming the forums like crazy. I think we can take a general consensus that Waar has trolled, without a doubt, but I don't think he is a troll through repetitive actions and is one of the more contributing members at FAKKU!. I do think the way he should have handled the Hime situation by first PMing her. I think many things should be solved in private before reaching the public floor. I've headed off many potential conflicts this way with new users and their lack of netiquette, and I was unfortunate not to act fast enough for Hime. I don't see Waar being wrong in asking the public's opinion about a certain situation, which everyone knew that Hime was spamming the forums like crazy. His method of handling it should've been more discreet though.
Still, I believe that the public is the last option to turn to after failing to solve it in private and going higher up to the administrative staff. Waar's methodology might be wrong, but I don't think he intended to "troll" users in such a way. Leastwise the points he brought up were mostly valid if not all.
@Coco-tan: There's no such thing as a collective PM, but spam PMing would be one option. And I don't think Waar made threads based on what one or two or three people felt because then that would really be immature of him. If you can't read his intentions behind his threads, I think some more reading comprehension classes are in order, and this goes for everyone.
Still, I believe that the public is the last option to turn to after failing to solve it in private and going higher up to the administrative staff. Waar's methodology might be wrong, but I don't think he intended to "troll" users in such a way. Leastwise the points he brought up were mostly valid if not all.
@Coco-tan: There's no such thing as a collective PM, but spam PMing would be one option. And I don't think Waar made threads based on what one or two or three people felt because then that would really be immature of him. If you can't read his intentions behind his threads, I think some more reading comprehension classes are in order, and this goes for everyone.
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okay, understood.
I have also looked at the thread and I am curious to why you decided to post your opinion of a troll so late into the thread? Not that it would change much except most people/users would be influenced by your opinion. That's the only reason why I do not like to voice my opinions seriously. Another thing, I disagree will how people compare things because it is like comparing "pain," it cannot be done.
I have to disagree with you about this topic not being "Serious Discussion" ranked. Actually, I misinterpreted that... So, does that mean you do actually believe for this topic to rank up to "Serious Discussion" level? Not that it would change anything. I actually think that if you started this topic in "Serious Discussion" you would have avoided some users unnecessary comments.
Thank you for your answer. What bothers me most in this world is "injustice." I cannot stand people who cannot think for themselves as you do too, but I believe my hatred for that quality in people is much higher (and also different) than that of yours Waar. The only reason might be because I am still a child (physically old enough for FAKKU!).
I do agree that the FAKKU! forums are great because I do enjoy some of the users company and I think Waar, you just made it more interesting for me. I believe your someone who will answer me "honestly." The reason why I never posted anything towards you before is because I honestly thought that it would do that you would not even give someone like me serious thought. Why? The reason is simple I am not intelligent. I cannot give someone like you a great argument, but if you do not mind I look forward to another chance to have a discussion with you. Don't have high expectations of me...
(I also feel like I stepped in an unwanted zone)
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Note - I was writing this before the two earlier post was made so I did included their opinions into my comment. (_ _)
I have also looked at the thread and I am curious to why you decided to post your opinion of a troll so late into the thread? Not that it would change much except most people/users would be influenced by your opinion. That's the only reason why I do not like to voice my opinions seriously. Another thing, I disagree will how people compare things because it is like comparing "pain," it cannot be done.
I have to disagree with you about this topic not being "Serious Discussion" ranked. Actually, I misinterpreted that... So, does that mean you do actually believe for this topic to rank up to "Serious Discussion" level? Not that it would change anything. I actually think that if you started this topic in "Serious Discussion" you would have avoided some users unnecessary comments.
Thank you for your answer. What bothers me most in this world is "injustice." I cannot stand people who cannot think for themselves as you do too, but I believe my hatred for that quality in people is much higher (and also different) than that of yours Waar. The only reason might be because I am still a child (physically old enough for FAKKU!).
I do agree that the FAKKU! forums are great because I do enjoy some of the users company and I think Waar, you just made it more interesting for me. I believe your someone who will answer me "honestly." The reason why I never posted anything towards you before is because I honestly thought that it would do that you would not even give someone like me serious thought. Why? The reason is simple I am not intelligent. I cannot give someone like you a great argument, but if you do not mind I look forward to another chance to have a discussion with you. Don't have high expectations of me...
(I also feel like I stepped in an unwanted zone)
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Note - I was writing this before the two earlier post was made so I did included their opinions into my comment. (_ _)
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g-money wrote...
@Coco-tan: There's no such thing as a collective PM, but spam PMing would be one option. And I don't think Waar made threads based on what one or two or three people felt because then that would really be immature of him. If you can't read his intentions behind his threads, I think some more reading comprehension classes are in order, and this goes for everyone.
I meant a collaborative PM issueing the problem. I guess I should have elaborated.
I do believe that waar and TMS made that Kaho thread. Unless I wasn't in that conversation overhearing them. That counts for two people.
I can read just fine. You just happen to be the lucky few who weren't ripped on by them.
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Well, I wasn't here for the Kaho "Ruuu" fiasco, so I can't comment on that. And to be honest, I've never known people to "work together" on a thread. I think that's weird.
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g-money wrote...
Well, I wasn't here for the Kaho "Ruuu" fiasco, so I can't comment on that. And to be honest, I've never known people to "work together" on a thread. I think that's weird.Well, it happened.
Waar made it, TMS enforced it. Waar aided TMS so he wouldn't look invalid in his arguments.
This is slowly growing off topic and I gtg to class. ;u;
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Coco-tan wrote...
g-money wrote...
Well, I wasn't here for the Kaho "Ruuu" fiasco, so I can't comment on that. And to be honest, I've never known people to "work together" on a thread. I think that's weird.Well, it happened.
Waar made it, TMS enforced it.
or exactly same person?
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Coco-tan wrote...
Waar wrote...
I've been following this topic closely and it seem to me that many of the users here at Fakku still have misconceptions of what a troll really is; at least according to my definition. A troll is someone who actively seeks chaos and instability, often resorting to childish behavior like name calling/personal attacks to cause negative emotions among one or multiple users on a forum.Response: I personally feel that you have done this.
Waar doesn't "actively seek chaos and instability". I don't know about the "often" part. The rest is more or less true to an extent.
