[Locked] 2012 Real? Or A Scare Tactic?
Do you believe that 2012 is real?
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Milo wrote...
Last time I heard it's on 2012, but nowadays I heard it will be on 21st May 2011, getting ridiculous somewhat?Same here. I think someone just wants to make a "doomsday" sooner so we can see it's just a big hoax faster.
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Sprite wrote...
Last time I heard, The second coming was suppose to be in 1823 or something.Well, there was the whole Millerite thing in 1844. That upset some people. But leave it to zealots to insist upon a prophecies validity even after the date has passed without the event occurring.
Then there is this:
Matthew 16:28 wrote...
Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.or
Luke 9:27 wrote...
Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.Generally speaking as well, from their writings it seems like the common belief of the early followers of Christ was that he would be coming back soon. Very soon, really. Don't-go-back-to-your-job-and-family-just-get-a-hotel-a-couple-nights soon.
For example:
1 Corinthians 7:29-31 wrote...
29 What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; 30 those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; 31 those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.But, I mean, the bible says a lot of stuff.
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I'm marginally sure that the year 2012 will be real. I don't believe anything will happen on whatever day it's supposed to be though.
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I don't believe that the world will end on 2012, unless we end it. (meaning, that nothing supernatural will happen)
Seriously, the Calender which started this myth doesn't even speak of the end of the world. They simply would have changed the calender.
Logic of the 2012 believers; "Z0mg the Mayanz callendoor endsss!11! It doezntz go on to infinity, zo it meanz that the worldz shall endzcxz@@@142!"
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Some of the things debunked there.
Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of the claims, and how true they are;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
PS. If you think that the world will end, I will happily collect all of your money, etc. as you clearly wont need it. :3
EDIT; Not sure if the guy below is sarcastic or not...but I'd say yes.
If so, then check the Wikipedia link. I think that is simple enough.
Seriously, the Calender which started this myth doesn't even speak of the end of the world. They simply would have changed the calender.
Logic of the 2012 believers; "Z0mg the Mayanz callendoor endsss!11! It doezntz go on to infinity, zo it meanz that the worldz shall endzcxz@@@142!"
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Some of the things debunked there.
Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of the claims, and how true they are;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
PS. If you think that the world will end, I will happily collect all of your money, etc. as you clearly wont need it. :3
EDIT; Not sure if the guy below is sarcastic or not...but I'd say yes.
If so, then check the Wikipedia link. I think that is simple enough.
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The Mayans where just lazy decided 2012 was a good year to stop at
since well they could have just kept going but that be impossible.
since well they could have just kept going but that be impossible.
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@Poll question yes i do believe the year 2012 is real
While i do believe we will probably end up killing each other off before some giant asteroid or cosmic event wipes us off the face of the earth, i don't think anything will happen on December 2012.
While i do believe we will probably end up killing each other off before some giant asteroid or cosmic event wipes us off the face of the earth, i don't think anything will happen on December 2012.
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I face death without fear. Honestly I don't care much about where and when, I care only about how...
I really hope the end of me is hurtless (physically and mentally)
I really hope the end of me is hurtless (physically and mentally)
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The world isn't going to end in 2012. It didn't end in 2000. We'll be FINE. You'll know this when you'll be sitting on the sofa drinking a beer while watching the next Olympics. :)
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It was a long feared apocalipse date by many people. Yet, nothing happened. why should I fear 2012 ?
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It was a long feared apocalipse date by many people. Yet, nothing happened. why should I fear 2012 ?
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2012 is just a year. And no one really knows the date of the said rapture.
"...But of that day and that hour knoweth no man..." (Mark 13:32 & Mat 24:36)
"...But of that day and that hour knoweth no man..." (Mark 13:32 & Mat 24:36)
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I don´t believe that we ALL die at 2012. If something comes then it comes, but not at a specific year.
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When the world ends, it won't be because of god, or the devil or anything. It will be humanity, fucking iteself over, or some huge natural disaster like a massive meteor. Only then can I see any kind of "judgement day, jesus comes down and does moonwalk" type of scenario.
If god ends the world, then he's evil because basically he's killing everyone.
If the devil ends the world, whats the point? If he kills everyone then he won't get any extra people or anything will he? once he starts it then god would take all the ones he wants to keep. If we continue existing then there is more time for the devil to do his work and make us all into serial killing rapists like he wants. (imagine that... it would get really weird living in that world)
If its just a pseudo end and all the faithful get taken up to heaven, what if someone becomes good after that? Will Jesus say "Nah man, too late. Fuck off." Thats just cruel and means no second chances, which jesus seemed to like back in the old days.
Ugh thinking up all the possibilities is really boring and really complicated so i'll sum up. The end will be a natural thing like a meteor or something big like that. Or it will be when we blow ourselves up. You won't know what hit you, you'll just be very very dead. No point in guessing when it will happen, just live until it does.
No I don't think its real.
If god ends the world, then he's evil because basically he's killing everyone.
If the devil ends the world, whats the point? If he kills everyone then he won't get any extra people or anything will he? once he starts it then god would take all the ones he wants to keep. If we continue existing then there is more time for the devil to do his work and make us all into serial killing rapists like he wants. (imagine that... it would get really weird living in that world)
If its just a pseudo end and all the faithful get taken up to heaven, what if someone becomes good after that? Will Jesus say "Nah man, too late. Fuck off." Thats just cruel and means no second chances, which jesus seemed to like back in the old days.
Ugh thinking up all the possibilities is really boring and really complicated so i'll sum up. The end will be a natural thing like a meteor or something big like that. Or it will be when we blow ourselves up. You won't know what hit you, you'll just be very very dead. No point in guessing when it will happen, just live until it does.
No I don't think its real.
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Ziggy wrote...
yuki1986 wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I didn't even know it had anything to do with religion, I thought it had to do with the NASA thing with the transit of venus. Uh, lemme get back on the details on that to share with the class.Okay, -lazy-
Here's a link I read long ago that made me know about the venus thing, it goes over all the past venus transits and what's happened during those time periods.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Venus%20Transit.html
I'm pretty sure a conspirator wrote this up. I mean - you'll find even on the NASA site talking about this, just not as 'dooms day'
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/transit/venus0412.html
Though in the first link, I had to dig up more information because when he started talking about UFO sightings I was just 'wait, wut?'
So if you also thought that, here's a documentary about the 1991 Mexico UFO sighting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIsTcqfBy50&feature=related
Oh, edit again:
My opinion of it? Don't care.
Yea the transits happen, but do I think it'll be the end of the world? I think the world is declining as it is with this stupid market crash and I think we're gonna have some tough times. I don't really see a good future for America - but that has nothing to do with religion or astrology.
If something does happen? Well, what was I supposed to do about it? Worrying about it certainly won't help.
Okay man, that scared the unholy shit otta me! but at least god wont smight me XD
But really that is the most logical possablity for the events that are coming forth in 2012.
PEOPLE READ THE FIRST LINK! trust me. ull be like.... shit.
but in reality we cant do anything about it, so just sit back and watch the earth transform 8)
That UFO thing, I just finished watching the whole thing, because I wanted to know why that particular sighting was so significant, since every farmer and his wife has reported some sort of UFO sighting. The only thing that makes me scoff is how they explained this one sighting (not the 1991 one) of Mexican soldiers found this silver disk of like 10 feet that crashed after hitting an airplane - America was listening in - Mexican soldiers find it and take the thing and lug it into a flat bed. Americans called in and asked for permission to support, Mexicans said no - Americans flew in planes anyway, happened to see the flat bed and happened to notice all the men were dead. Happened to be able to take several more planes and organize troops to go in with biological suits and take this thing away and even burn the flat bed truck and soldiers to kill any evidence.
Uh... hello? If that happened how the fuck did America get away with that? And, if all evidence was killed, why is there a representation on the history channel about it? Also, if that did happen, then my money is on America killed those soldiers to get their hands on that piece of scrap metal.
Anyway, I'm totally off topic, I just stuck my nose into why 1991 was significant and got stuck on another UFO sighting instead about that. Eh.
wonder if the metal was important?
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Here's an interesting way of looking at it:
Is it beneficial to believe that the world will end in 2012?
On one of the more philosophically odd forums i've lurked over the years i found a particularly interesting rant posted by the Professor Cramulus. He's a discordian, you can google that and work it out (if you're lucky).
(CAUTION HUGE WALL OF TEXT WITHIN)
(CAUTION: HUGE WALL OF TEXT WITHIN)
one of the points he seems to be getting at is that these apocalyptic predictions give us an opportunity, an excuse if you will, to go absolutely nuts. I, for one, feel there is benefit in going completely crazy for a while. If anything it's good to see how far you are willing to go when worked up into a frenzy and how far others will be carried along with you.
I see 2012 as more than a possible end of the world. It is a priceless opportunity to have a bit of fun before we all burn in total damnation because lets face it: If ANY religion with eternal damnation on the cards got it right, and there sure are a lot of those, I know where I'm ending up.
Is it beneficial to believe that the world will end in 2012?
On one of the more philosophically odd forums i've lurked over the years i found a particularly interesting rant posted by the Professor Cramulus. He's a discordian, you can google that and work it out (if you're lucky).
(CAUTION HUGE WALL OF TEXT WITHIN)
Spoiler:
(CAUTION: HUGE WALL OF TEXT WITHIN)
one of the points he seems to be getting at is that these apocalyptic predictions give us an opportunity, an excuse if you will, to go absolutely nuts. I, for one, feel there is benefit in going completely crazy for a while. If anything it's good to see how far you are willing to go when worked up into a frenzy and how far others will be carried along with you.
I see 2012 as more than a possible end of the world. It is a priceless opportunity to have a bit of fun before we all burn in total damnation because lets face it: If ANY religion with eternal damnation on the cards got it right, and there sure are a lot of those, I know where I'm ending up.
