Will you ever marry a robot...
Will you marry a robot?
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
HimeTakamura wrote...
[color=orchid]Yes, but a machine is not a living being and cannot replace one. They make look alive, act alive, sound alive, feel alive; they're aren't alive. they're simply computers in fancy coating. [/color]
To me, look act sound feel alive would be enough reason to take something as alive...I mean, is there anything else, any criteria that only humans possess that makes humans alive, while any other sufficiently complex machines don't. I don't think there's such criteria...and so, that's why I would accept any sufficiently complex machine as "human" enough. Because we too, are such machines.
This is just like trying to prove the statement "Humans other than I exist, and alive". In the end as long as you think look act sound feel alive is not enough proof to believe them to be alive, then you'll never find any proof for that. Heck, with that kinda thinking, even trying to prove the existence of our own selves will boil down to the cogito ergo sum crap...which is at best trivial.
Of course you can't say humans are alive just because you think they're humans, and machines don't because they're...machines. That's breaking the whole relevancy of finding proof of something is alive.
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Tsurayu wrote...
HimeTakamura wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
mibuchiha wrote...
HimeTakamura wrote...
[color=orchid]Robots can't understand emotion and can only do what they are programmed to do, so I would stick with a human. Robots can never replace humans or replicate human emotion beyond their harddrive.[/color]This is gonna bring in some deep consciousness discussion...I mean, even for humans, hard to swallow that our emotion is anything beyond the neural networks in our brain...So given a complex enough hardware to process all the necessary data, how are you gonna discern between pre-programmed emotion and "real' ones?
And yeah I'm among those who believe our consciousness is nothing more than a product of all those interactions in our brain.
So yeah if I have a robot that looks like a human, and is capable of mental functions human are capable of, damn right I'll marry her!
That's what I was thinking. I think there are far fewer differences between man and machine that people seem to realize at first glance. We are nothing more than very advanced machines ourselves, who's to say we won't eventually reach a technological breakthrough where we are able to create machines who are as diverse and as sentient as we are?
[color=orchid]Yes, but a machine is not a living being and cannot replace one. They make look alive, act alive, sound alive, feel alive; they're aren't alive. they're simply computers in fancy coating. [/color]
So are we?
Why can't we eventually replicate living tissue. There is really very little difference between our nervous system and a neural net similar to circuitry. I think a day could come where you couldn't tell the difference. XD
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according to this, they can never be alive:
Biology - Properties Of Living Organisms
A capacity for evolution
A capacity for self-replication
A capacity for growth and differentiation via a genetic program
A capacity for self-regulation, to keep the complex system in a steady state (homeostasis, feedback)
A capacity (through perception and sense organs) for response to stimuli from the environment
A capacity for change at the level of phenotype and of genotype[/color]
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The point is, who is to say that we could never artificially do any of that? The terms of life is such an arbitrary list really; if we could replicate all of those conditions in machines than that list is automatically thrown out the window.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Not to mention the list is being too specific too...I mean, the definition of "alive" is too restricted in there. It's more like..."organically alive" to me...
So yeah, just like tsurayu said, the list is way too arbitrary.
So yeah, just like tsurayu said, the list is way too arbitrary.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Gentlepervert wrote...
Robots can be edited while on humans there's no replacement for love so better give it to humans.Once again I see this kinda thing...when we're able to create AI complex enough to function mentally like human, editing a human personality would be just as easy as editing those AI...with a bit organic 'ewww"ness.
So, it boils down to how arrogant you are as human, really. Arrogant for thinking humans are irreducibly complex, incomparable, special, genuinely free-willed, have souls and all those things...
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Well, it's not as fucked up as people wanting to marry Anime characters...
...I'm not bullshitting you, someone actually wanted to.
Anyways, I'd prefer a real girl mainly because I would be able to keep the human race alive. Call me old fashioned, but I want my kids to...ya know...live.
...I'm not bullshitting you, someone actually wanted to.
Anyways, I'd prefer a real girl mainly because I would be able to keep the human race alive. Call me old fashioned, but I want my kids to...ya know...live.
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Scion in chains
The Forgotten Faggot
That depends if she is soft (out & in), if I have to unwrap her first, if she is programmed to love me or really does due to true emotion, how responsive she is, other boring things, & mainly if she would fucking pull me in two if I ever pissed her off.
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If the specs are exactly human , why not? beats having to have a real wife that ages, needs to be fed, may cheat on you.
besides, i'm not a person who likes having kids. just me and the one i love would be wonderful enough, what's more, one that'll be loyal to you for life.
besides, i'm not a person who likes having kids. just me and the one i love would be wonderful enough, what's more, one that'll be loyal to you for life.