Serious question for atheists

Not really since irony is when something opposite of what is expected happens.

yeah, it's not. just as expected, i'd say.

Okay I edit what I said in the "respect beliefs thread" Whitelion is the exception (If he is a "believer") other than that, the statement stands. Anyways +rep

Okay for my argument let me start off with this question and I want everybody to think about this:

Why do we not teach alchemy, phrenology, flat earth or other "truths" of the past?

The reason is because we have gathered evidence that proved that these "truths" were in fact entinrely wrong or not wholly correct.

Atheist as a whole generally believe in the gathering of evidence to support a claim. If I claimed I could move a box with my mind then people would expect evidence or even a demonstration of this claim.

The mistake that religious people make is that they claim there is a God (non specific God) but, refuse to bring evidence of it's existence to the table. I can prove a penguin exist by taking you to a penguin either in a zoo or in the wild but, the only "proof" religious people (I'll use Christianity for this example) have to their claim is a book that was written over two thousand years ago. This is the adult form of a kids argument of "Air is invisible,etc how do you know its there" or "My imaginary friend exist but, only I can see or talk to them. So you'll just have to accept that it does."

Why do we not accept "Faith" as a reason that God exists? Lets take a look at Dictionary.com's definition of "faith" (As I continue my argument I'll be using definition number two as the base.)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Faith

1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.

I'll go ahead and ask every Christian on these boards. How is your religion any better than the religions of the past? These include but, aren't limited to Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Shinto, Sikh, Baha'i, Jain, Zoroastrianism, Rastafarian, Scientology, Cao Dai, Tenrikyo, Neo-Pagan, etc. While some of these don't really fit the discussion but, it does prove my point. Nearly every religion since the beginning of society has claimed that their god watches over us, rewards/punishes us based on our actions. Some have disappeared entirely while some are fading yours is no different. In an era where science and reason are the rules of the day Faith has no place anywhere but, within your own heart to guide your own actions of your own life. I do not push my beliefs on others but, if you want me to believe your claim that a God exists then you must bring me tangible evidence. We use evidence in our scientific pursuits, in our laws and courts and yet, we are quested when we demand evidence of a God.

I'll change gears here and change subjects. I personally am an Atheist and I am proud of that. When I was younger I was a Sunday School going, bright eyed little boy until I started developing my desire to know the why's and how's behind the already existing "why's and hows". Religion couldn't provide those answers but science and logic did.

In conclusion I'll answer "Why do Atheist scrutinize Religion"? The answer is because Theist want to play baseball with the Atheists but, want to make the rules up as they go along.

No, Atheism believe in something, so it is a way to life.

You people are trying to give a universal definition of something that in itself has no set definition.

Maybe i am the wrong one that i don't remove the rest of quote. I just want to comment about atheism being the way of life.
I don't think i need to give more comment about Atheism, since i know that i can't talk about Atheism, or beliefs with people around in the world. They usually tend to reject and feel that they are the right one.

But thanks to remind about wiki. That will solve it.

I'm glad someone bothered to point that out.

First of all your classing all atheist together as haters of all religion as if were trying to tear it all down. I'm atheist and I don't give a damn about religion so I'm not gonna even care what anyone's religion is enough to make them a non-believer. It seems you only see people through there religion. Atheism isnt a of life when you believe in nothing, to be a way of life there needs to be something there that leads you.

That's what i mean. And when it is written on wikipedia, then it is already recognized by every brain-people who read it, because if not, then there will be discussion about it there.

Well, if you truly believe in something and it can't coexist with other existing ideas, then you are going to scrutinize the concepts that oppose your views. Of course, trying to "tear people away" is a personal decision between each and every individual, so generalizing an entire section of people like that kind of doesn't work.

Oh yeah, if you are going to write "God", then you should make sure to capitalize the H in "him".

Um, I believe the simple definition to that would be "a lack of belief in a diety/god/whatever you call your sky daddy."
That's all atheism is.

JuiceBox47 you do realize that god didn't create us we created god..

ignorant, stupid, and bias people like you are the reason for all the hell in this world today.. people like you dear JuiceBox47 have unfortunately gone through a devolution, ohhh sorry! you don't believe in evolution so you probably don't understand, haha...

athiests feel they have the right to preach the good word of "FUCK RELIGION". Its in there blood. I even think that they are infact a religion of hating religion. Its a known fact. Now that I think of it atheists are the most non biased people compared to other groups of people. Next to liberals and Democrats.

If you're serious about that, then you're a fucking dumbass.
If not, come back to SD when you have a real opinion.

Zing!

But seriously. Like rbz said, I hope you aren't serious. It's human nature to be biased, unless you're saying atheists, liberals and Democrats aren't human.

EDIT: Like Ginichimaru said, if they were to be unbiased, they wouldn't be liberals or Democrats.

Well if the bold wasn’t enough maybe you should look at your own bias before blasting another’s and calling them stupid for it.

Well while I think the quote above proves your first part wrong sorry. But the fact that you said “Next to liberals and Democrats” kind of killed your statement. Maybe you don’t know what bias is?

I'm an atheist and I admit I'm biased but not in an aggressive way. Everywhere I go in the world I have people trying to convert me to religion (usually Christianity)so I consider it fair that I be allowed to express my views freely too. God or any higher power has never been a part of my life, it never made sense to me. I don't get angry with people trying to talk to me about God, however the idea is so foreign to me that nothing would ever sway me on it.

I'm Buddhist, so therefore I am atheist?
I dun get it.

Buddhisim is about reincarnation, karma, and the mystic law.
well...mine is Nichiren Buddhist though.

Its a Japanese religion that's been spread to most parts of the world.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soka_Gakkai